Do Christian Parents Abuse their Children?

[Drich]

Oh, the irony...

What if the difference between say growing up deeply religious, and say growing up deeply scientific/predilection to science but being outdated and or simply wrong in everything you think to be 'fact?'

before you answer.

Do you assume there will NEVER be any up and coming scientific change that would have you through out what you currently define as foundational belief?

Do you/Can you follow?

Let's say you were a "scientific fellow" of the mid 1400, and was not privy to Darwin or Columbus, but as you and your circle thinks now, no God, raising your children is child abuse, and for all of the same reason... It's just some on 600 years from now can identify your version of "reality" is as backwards as you view the church... Then if that is the case, isn't raising you children in ever changing scientific fact just as WRONG as raising you kids in the Church UNLESS! UNLESS scientific accuracy is not the goal, but rather the goal being a social order without God?

On the surface you seem to be taking the intellectually high road, but the problem with that is very little scientific 'fact' can stand up to scrutiny after a few hundred years, making 'facts' of science little more than popular fiction. So then unless ALL of society had adopted this popular fiction as absolute fact, then if you are right about God there isn't an intellectual 'high road.' As all fact simply succumb to "new pop facts." If this is the case then there is no more 'rightness'/stability in believing in science. leaving you with a simple expression of faith or a want to believe in science over God.

Now if all you have is a want or desire for science to be more true than God, then how is it your children are not being abused mentally when subjected to this form of indoctrination verse any form of religious indoctrination?

I would have thought that after all your time here you would understand the basics of what science is. Apparently not. It's a method, Drich -- a method!.

And I described it as such a method of perpetual wrongness. a series of popular beliefs/facts. Hole in ozone caused by cfc's, global warming, global cooling cause by the same thing. which again is no different than electing to believe in the facts/methods of the bible. because given enough time there is nothing separating belief/faith in a given system (science religion) than simple faith. It would be one thing if 'science could hold up to any scrutiny milliena after millennia, but that is not the case. which make belief in one or the other a demonstration of faith. where science is concerned this demonstration of faith is found in what you currently believe is true, or what will replace it will be true. when in fact your 'system of discovery' is corrupt and 'discovery is often sold to whom ever funds the endeavor.

And because of that method 'facts' (you really meant hypotheses and theories, but never mind) are sometimes eventually known to be wrong or are altered to accommodate additional, previously unknown facts.

Show me one absolute scientific truth that has never changed.

You always characterize this as a weakness of science, when in fact it is its crowning glory.

it is a weakness because it shows 'science' is for sale.

No one who really understands the rudiments of science are the dogmatist straw men you enjoy jousting because they understand the tentative, falsifiable nature of scientific conclusions. That you are a dogmatist with no clue about the scientific project is well known on these boards. But don't paint others with that brush. Try to at least clear that low bar of honesty.

yet those same b-holes would look at religion as ridged unforgiving unchanging. they would cherry pick passages to lock God into a little box giving him and the practice of Christianity strict definitions and point to rules that no longer have meaning inorder to find abuse, when a general belief in science is protrayed as almost lackidasical when the roles of the two should be reversed.

You can't question all might science, you can't question popular belief? do you even know what the secondary belief to Darwinism is/was? It make a whole helleva lot more sense than Darwinism does and it not only explains the fossil record it also take away/explains why there are no missing links.

Yet anyone who would subscribe to this fully scientific theory would be laughed out of your little pop culture club. This is another evidence that your "precious" is for sale, because there are no other legitimate competing theories allowed. there can only be one till someone with more money and funding comes along and knocks down the king of the mountain!

As for parents 'indoctrinating' their children with science, if you're talking about people teaching their kids about the method, that's the opposite of indoctrination.

Jesus Help me... You clearly never looked up the word indoctrination. Or better yet you have never critically challenged anything you've been taught with a scientific label.

Do you/can you follow?

But I agree with you on one point: if parents taught as dogma this or that scientific hypothesis or theory, they would be doing their children a disservice, and that would be an example of stupid parenting since they would be denying their children the wonders of examining the evidence and arguments for themselves.

It would almost be as stupid as indoctrinating one's kids to believe in and worship a resurrected Jew.

...and you do not see this happening now?

Have you EVER challenged Darwinism? have you ever challenged it enough to seek out other scientific theories that explains our fossil records? Once you were told that the sky is falling by al gore did it scare you? did you notice the planet getting warmer? when you were told "because science, there can be no God" did you stop looking?

Don't look now sport but teaching science is to teach you little retard to not think critically in the exact same way many of you ascribe to the church. You have unwittingly replace God of the gaps with "science' of the gaps. Science has become the all powerful unquestionable catch all and you a-hole are so complacent you don't even know you have been indoctrinated to only except 'fact' with the "Science" brand label on it.

You d-bags are way way worse off than some poor christian who answers everything "because God" reluctantly/out of faith. Because you answer the sameway "because science" but your conclusion is of one made from blind faith. You can't/are not allowed to consider that you are wrong.

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Oh fuck Drich is here. What a waste of an interesting thread.

Oh, hammy, worry not I won't challenge you directly and force you to think.. you can just keep sniping comments from afar safe distance.