RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 21, 2017 at 9:40 pm
(This post was last modified: November 21, 2017 at 9:44 pm by Bow Before Zeus.)
(November 21, 2017 at 10:12 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:(November 20, 2017 at 8:46 pm)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: But your person A/B experiment is not a fair experiment. Clearly [A] is the preference because he follows his unethical thinking with ethical thinking. So ethical thoughts win out again. I'm still choosing the person that has more ethical thinking processes.
The point I was trying to make is that the person with the most ethical thought processes (ie has 100% ethical thoughts and 0% unethical thoughts) is the best preference as he is uncapable of any unwholesome words/actions. Purely because of his different thought processes - ie ethical only thought processes.
I see your point. An unethical action WILL NOT happen unless it is preceded by violent or malicious thought. I agree that the best case scenario is to basically be locked in the room with Buddha.
I just find it hard to hold people accountable for their thoughts. The causes of their thoughts often have to do factors outside of their control (upbringing, treatment by others, environmental factors, etc.) In your line of thinking, a person who has a violent thought but then counters it with a nonviolent thought has behaved unethically. I disagree. I think he has behaved ETHICALLY, despite his having had the thought.
As I said before, I agree with you that cultivating benevolent thinking is GOOD. I just don't see having a malicious thought as BAD.
I am not saying that they should be held accountable from a legal sense because they had an unethical thought, however it should be recognised that it is unethical. Only then can unethical thoughts and actions be stopped. Of course the best mind-state is one that can never produce unethical thoughts.
But happy to agree to disagree at this point because we both understand what we mean and there's no need to further convince either one or the other is "right".
(November 21, 2017 at 8:52 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Like i said. I'm pretty sure this person is a troll and just pulling obnoxious BS out of his ass.
The crazy thing is the handful of posters who are actually taking him seriously and agreeing with him, kudosing his posts, etc.
Talking about me in the third person and accusing me of "pulling obnoxious BS out of his ass" will not make me go away. You can even put your fingers in your ears and say "la la la la la". I'm still here.
And to date, I have yet to attack any poster here xtian or atheist. I'm still waiting to get the same courtesy from the xtians though...