Does Modern Science Owe Its Existence to Religion?

[Statler Waldorf]

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We don't have a worldview consistent with this presupposition? I assume you're using a capital G here, yeah?

Actually no, it doesn't make any sense Stat. When a claim to truth is made and the truth is observable by anyone who cares to look, it's pretty easy to point the finger and call someone for the liar they are. It's called fact checking. It's simple as hell to do.

That's about the weakest thing you've ever said, as if a logical argument comes down to beliefs. The argument is not sound. What you believe about the argument is irrelevant (same would apply to my "beliefs"..lulz).

To recap whats went down thusfar:

You would rather not talk about how hilariously and unfortunately incorrect you were about syllogisms, math, logic, and numbers.
Some arguments are valid but not sound, such as the argument from biblical inerrancy, or the drake equation.
Some presuppositions are not subject to the same scrutiny of other presuppositions.

For a "classical logic buff" you've really managed to butcher the whole thing.

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- You are right; the way you behave is completely inconsistent with your atheism.
- It’s not a claim to truth; it’s a claim to inerrancy, the ultimate standard to judge truth. You have a different inerrant standard to judge it by? Didn’t think so.
- I didn’t say all logical arguments come down to beliefs, that one does though. You can’t prove it is not sound so don’t even waste your time.
- A better recap would be- you didn’t know the difference between a valid argument and a sound argument, so I showed you. You claimed there were no valid arguments for the existence of God, so I came up with one and refuted you on the spot. You didn’t know how presuppositions work in logic (apparently you are still fuzzy on this one though, so we will work on it), so I showed you. You tried to use logic to disprove logic, so I showed you why that was absurd. You have learned a lot today, just think of what you may learn tomorrow! The world is your oyster.