RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 26, 2017 at 4:00 am
(This post was last modified: November 26, 2017 at 4:07 am by Bow Before Zeus.)
(November 25, 2017 at 6:57 am)alpha male Wrote:(November 24, 2017 at 7:28 pm)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: He is judge, jury and executioner.
Exactly. It's special pleading to refer to killing by such as murder.
Quote:Murder is killing. Killing is unethical. God is unethical. Simple logical conclusion.
Rather, a simplistic conclusion based on a faulty premise. While murder is necessarily killing, killing isn't necessarily murder. My late father volunteered to go to Europe and kill Germans. No one called him a murderer. Millions of turkeys were eaten in the US a couple days ago. They were killed. Police aren't raiding the turkey farms.
Quote:NO! I don't eat my relatives, but thanks for the offer. Really? Is it special pleading to call 9/11 an atrocity?
No, but it would be special pleading to call the killing of Bin Laden murder, at least in the US. Those SEALs weren't put in jail for it that I recall.
Quote:Mass murder is an atrocity no matter to whom it is attributed.
You haven't established anything God has done as murder.
Quote:Oops, yet another personal attack. The tally increases...
Xtians attacking BBZ: several million + 1
BBF attacking xtians: 0
Still holding to my ethics...
Yeah, the ethical child abuser.
Ok, I see what you are doing here. You are creating a special form of killing called murder which is "bad" and reserving a special form of killing which you are going to call "good". It's a special rarefied universe that xtians live in which allows this kind of mental gymnastics that turns unethical actions into ethical ones. Let me tell you something that you may not be aware of. All killing is unethical. End of story. Did that shock you? I guess when you come of a very loose moral stance as xtians tend to do (they have to to justify all the killing their god does as "good"), it's a shock to hear about a morality or ethical standpoint that is superior to that derived from the bible.
Your god is described in the bible as killing millions of living beings. This is unethical. Not much you can do to wriggle out of that. Then mental gymnastics that you have engaged in your post above still doesn't excuse the mass killings of a maniacal god.
The tally increases once again...
Xtians attacking BBZ: several million + 2
BBF attacking xtians: 0
Still holding to my ethics...
(November 25, 2017 at 1:32 pm)Godscreated Wrote:(November 23, 2017 at 4:31 am)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: If we are to take the bible literally (as the original authors intended it) we read that the xtian god is responsible for mass murder (eg flooding the world killing millions of living beings), infanticide (eg the Egyptian exodus), the destruction of entire villages (Sodom and Gomorrah), etc, etc. I can't go on for two reasons. It is a horrific litany of murders and it is a very long list. Suffice it to say it is a list of murders estimated in the vicinity of 25 million people let alone all the other living beings. For those interested, you can see the complete horrific list here:
Drunk With Blood
So, my question to the xtians is, how do you reconcile an "ethical" god with the god in the bible that has committed all these atrocities?
He can't murder, that would be a sin and against who God is. God is the perfect, righteous creator who owns all the universe and all that it contains. It is His right to deal with it as He see's fit in accordance to His plan. God also judges the people who die before their lives are taken and if found guilty He has the right to end those lives, they actually belong to Him. You as all people think and live in a physical world, God deals in the spiritual and spiritual world, this means we are incapable of seeing the real truth as God eternal does.
GC
He killed millions of living beings. That's not perfect or righteous, that's unethical.