RE: Do Christian Parents Abuse their Children?
November 28, 2017 at 11:47 am
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2017 at 11:49 am by Shell B.)
(November 27, 2017 at 5:00 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(November 27, 2017 at 4:52 pm)Shell B Wrote: I completely don't follow chorlton or agree with rampant anti-theism. That said, he makes a point. All you need to do is prove it. You've made a claim for the existence of god, so prove it. If you don't, you can't blame other people for disagreeing with you.
That sounds good, but can't the same be said, for anything you don't agree with?
You've made the various claims of evolution, now all you have to do is prove it! If you don't you can't blame other people for disagreeing.
First I may take a little issue with the word prove, but this really could be begging the question. Now if the person is just proclaiming that everything is fact, and doesn't give a reason for their claim, you might have some point, but even then I don't think saying it like that is right.
Of course it is. It's classic burden of evidence. Evolution is provable, so bad example?
(November 27, 2017 at 5:02 pm)SteveII Wrote:(November 27, 2017 at 4:46 pm)Shell B Wrote: If it's a result of an action or condition, it's because "he" made it so, according to the very core of your religion. Therefore, whatever consequences stem from not believing in god are very deliberate on "his" part.
So, Hell is just a place where souls chill without god. There is really nothing to fear except not hanging out with god. So, if you don't believe in god or aren't that pleased with his creation, it's not a big deal. I can just kick it with atheists for all of eternity. Cool. Sin on, folks! W00t!
Actually, that is not a correct characterization of God. Part of the meaning of having a perfectly Holy and perfectly Just nature means that there is no choice that God makes about what to do with sin. It just is the way it is because it is part of God's unchangeable nature.
Regarding hell, you missed the sentence "Weeping and gnashing of teeth" are metaphors to the pain caused by complete separation from God." The description of such a condition in the Bible is not at all pleasant. Also, it seems it might be a stretch to imagine that an immaterial soul can communicate with other immaterial souls--so I wouldn't count on "kicking back with atheists".
So, you'll just be floating around heaven without communicating too? Sounds a lot like hell.
