RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
November 28, 2017 at 2:31 pm
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2017 at 2:34 pm by Whateverist.)
(November 28, 2017 at 2:24 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(November 28, 2017 at 2:23 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: A state of nature can change but nature it remains . Applying cause or the current state of physics to the wider cosmos or a pre current universe is fallacious CL . And no saying you see things have a cause or come from somewhere IN the universe again says nothing about the origins OF universe .
It says a lot. But you guys are in denial. Really, that is all there is to Atheism. Denial of proofs and the clear design of the world we are in.
In clear denial that it was designed but well aware of the hand in glove fit manner in which the puddle gloriously fits the hole in which it sits. Really that is all there is to god belief, you behold the puddle and imagine God almighty as having crafted it like a boss.
(November 28, 2017 at 11:50 am)SteveII Wrote:(November 28, 2017 at 11:08 am)Whateverist Wrote: What is wrong with saying the universe is contingent at every moment upon its prior states and we just don't know how far back those go, nor whether they extend beyond the range of what we locally call the big bang.
Your just pushing the problem back a step each time. You can't have an infinite regress, so it has to stop somewhere. For the sake of argument, "the universe" is used to hold the place of some point in the past.
Oh wait, I forgot what this argument was based on: God or we don't have a comprehensive explanation of the universe. Guess what, we don't have a complete explanation. Life goes on.
