RE: Best books debunking Christianity
November 28, 2017 at 3:54 pm
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2017 at 4:04 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 28, 2017 at 1:59 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Pretty ironic coming from you since you deny anything that has even a whiff of Platonism. That's okay. I'm used to your arguments of convenience.LOL...................? You want a beer or something bud? I don't have to agree with some idea x to point out that it's available to atheists, since it doesn't depend on gods, or that things which don't depend on gods are equally open to people who do believe in them.
Quote:Anyways, I don't see how it is even possible to differentiate between Plato's notion of "The Good" and the being demonstrated in Aquinas's 4th W, the gradations of perfection. But suit yourself. Integrity never was your strong suit.More of your previously noted inability to see relevant differences when you absolutely don't want to, I guess?
More than that I don't know what to tell you. Atheism is a single line item. An atheist can accept notions of value and goodness, and means of determining either, and still -be- an atheist. Being an atheist doesn't actually mean that a person is a nihilist, nor does atheism inexorably reduce to nihilism.
That -you- can't imagine value or meaning in the absence of a god only expresses the fact that -you- are a nihilist...imagining that god imparts or circumscribes value or meaning that is not intrinsic to you or the universe in any meaningful sense. I beg to differ. I think that whatever value you have is, properly, a property of your own august self. That it belongs naturally and essentially to you. I would propose this even if there -were- a god, which there isn't, and regardless of whether or not you would beg to differ on -that- the meaning and value I refer to is available to you all the same.......so?
Don't get me wrong, I'm ribbing you a little bit, up above..I know it's not -just- you and your willful ignorance. I get consistent befuddlement from the religious on this and related subjects. It;s as if they spent all of their time preparing for some specific argument and..right at the outset, I make all of that wasted time. "No, no..you -have- to be a nihilist...I've prepared for that argument, my apologism and righteous indignation depend on it!"
Yeah...I know........... too bad isn't it?
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