RE: Anti-Theism
December 4, 2017 at 7:56 am
(This post was last modified: December 4, 2017 at 8:01 am by Brian37.)
(December 3, 2017 at 10:36 pm)Haipule Wrote: I sort of get Agnosticism, Agnostic Atheism and Atheism. Although, there is a blur, they do all start with "A" It seems to me that Atheism is as diverse as Christianity. Christianity has it's 5 major idiot clowns; Tertullian; Origen; Augustine; Martin Luther; John Calvin.
I'm quite sure Atheism also has it's clowns. I mean, Carl Sagan...really?
What I don't understand is the anti-theism among Atheists. If there is no Deity then, why bash what you don't believe even exists?
Yet, I fully understand anti-Christianity. I am a Christian but, those five clowns followers call me a heretic!
Of course we are diverse. But we are not a religion.
We come in all political stripes, we exist in every nation, we have different skin tones. Some are republicans, others are libertarians, and many are liberals like me. Some want better firearm control, and other atheists worship firearms on par with far right Christians. Some atheists like Any Rand who valued "fuck you I got mine economics", while others value Che, the sicko whom lead to Castro's Cuba(A CATHOLIC MAJORITY NATION FYI). I am no fan of either of those economic views.
I am anti-unicornist too. Being against naked assertions does not make one anti human rights.
We do get sick of the question, "Why do you bash something you don't believe exists?"
I don't believe in Harry Potter either, but nobody has yet to turn that into a religion, and make laws or start wars over it.
I do not fear fictional beings, I do however know that humans can and do act on what they believe and do vote and to fight over religion and that can have an impact on my life.
Yes naked assertions bother me. If you had a friend or family member that constantly repeated every day, "The New England Patriots beat the Houston Astros in Stanley Cup" you may like and love that person, but that DOES NOT mean you have to value that particular claim.
I am tired of this garbage that because we challenge the naked assertions of theists, that makes us anti human rights. NOW, get this through your head, we are political diverse. We exist worldwide. We come in all skin tones. WE ARE NOT A RELIGION.
Being against bad logic and naked assertions, does not make us anti human rights. I am also anti-tooth fairy, anti-big foot too. Just because we think you are full of crap on one claim, does not mean we will have you murdered, or eat your babies or barbecue your kittens. I am sorry someone sold you the bullshit idea that we are monsters to be feared but we are not.
Carol Sagan was a far better humanitarian and compassionate person than alot of theists. I am sorry it bothers you that non believers exist. But that is your baggage, not ours.
I can value the likes of Ann Frank, but not find her belief that Yahweh existed, credible. I can value the likes of Martin Luther King Jr, but not find his belief that the Christian God is a credible claim. I can value the likes of Malala but not find claims of Allah credible. Just because I don't believe does not mean I am a monster. I value my species POTENTIAL for compassion and empathy and morality. I simply do not buy my fellow humans claims that those things are being handed down to us from a divine magical place.
If our species never questioned social norms, our species never would have left the caves.