(August 19, 2011 at 7:25 pm)Chuck Wrote: American revolution was effective because the French King wanted his bayonnets to deprive the British of their North American Empire. We Americans think we are something for kicking out the British "Superpower of the day" out of our little backwoods hick town of 13 colonies mostly on our own, thanks to the deified Washington, with the French playing but a minor role commensurate with cheese eating surrender monkeys.
In fact the British were not quite the superpower, but merely a power on par with France, Spain, Prussia, Russia, etc, and it was French money, arms, highly trained troops, and above all world class fleet, waging a world wide war against Britain that was instrumental in securing American freedom.
It was the bayonetts of another tyrannt, not our freedom loving pitchforks, that was most critical in making our revolution effective.
French revolution was effective both because the King was at first too reluctant to use his bayonetts, and because when called on, the bayonettes proved very reluctant.
The french do deserve some credit, but from what I've learned about the American Revolution, your belittling of the American patriots is heavily exaggerated. The British lost the war to us for many reasons, but primarily because they were entrenched in antiquated battle techniques. Their superior numbers and ships meant nothing because they could not redesign their war machine to adapt to the colonists fighting style ... Americans fought dirty. Patriots were often expert marksmen who would take out British officers (a fact the British found repulsive). Patriots regularly ambushed the Brits from treelines and dugins and then disappeared. The Brits were still use to lining up in a fuckin field and firing at eachother like ducks in a row. The colonists were also very familiar with the lay of the land and understood that fighting large numbers required strategic positioning. Your cavalier statement about colonists fighting the British with pitchforks is just ludicrous.
I will concede that the French were instrumental in helping the colonies win, but your implication that we as Americans didn't earn our own independence but rather stumbled over the french for it seems more like an exaggeration to aide in making your point. Also, Britain was most assuredly a super power of the time, just because they weren't the only one doesn't make them any less intimidating.