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Dispatches From the Revolution
January 25, 2019 at 7:10 pm
From Robert Reich:
"This story epitomizes exactly what is wrong with the American economy. Billionaire hedge-fund manager Ken Griffin just paid $238 million for a New York City penthouse, shattering the record for the most expensive home ever sold in America.
Griffin is also one of the biggest donors in American politics. However, Griffin changed his political affiliation from Democrat to Republican after President Obama tried to crack down on tax breaks for hedge funds. Since then, he has made more than a million dollars in contributions to conservative causes. Oh and by the way, Griffin also received a $200 million government bailout during the financial collapse of 2008.
America has generous socialism for the rich, and cold, hard capitalism for everyone else. We must end this vicious cycle of money, power, and greed."
https://www.businessinsider.com/ken-griffin-most-expensive-home-ever-sold-us-nyc-penthouse-2019-1?fbclid=IwAR1bZZI0gJw66dUYGGyswZSOofBzZnEUa1pVR7vJacAjtdolkDi_-G-HoGY
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RE: Dispatches From the Revolution
January 25, 2019 at 8:00 pm
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Stop picking on Mr. Griffin, please. His net worth is less than ten billion dollars. If he gets severely injured to the point where he can no longer commit financial rape, the money he has now would have to last him the rest of his life.
Jeez, mate. Have a heart.
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RE: Dispatches From the Revolution
January 31, 2019 at 9:06 pm
Yeah, we should probably start up a crowd-sourcing fund for him, just to be charitable.
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RE: Dispatches From the Revolution
January 31, 2019 at 9:08 pm
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RE: Dispatches From the Revolution
February 1, 2019 at 2:20 am
How easily the rich forget that when the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich.
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RE: Dispatches From the Revolution
February 1, 2019 at 10:57 am
(January 25, 2019 at 7:10 pm)Yonadav Wrote: From Robert Reich:
"This story epitomizes exactly what is wrong with the American economy. Billionaire hedge-fund manager Ken Griffin just paid $238 million for a New York City penthouse, shattering the record for the most expensive home ever sold in America.
Griffin is also one of the biggest donors in American politics. However, Griffin changed his political affiliation from Democrat to Republican after President Obama tried to crack down on tax breaks for hedge funds. Since then, he has made more than a million dollars in contributions to conservative causes. Oh and by the way, Griffin also received a $200 million government bailout during the financial collapse of 2008.
America has generous socialism for the rich, and cold, hard capitalism for everyone else. We must end this vicious cycle of money, power, and greed."
https://www.businessinsider.com/ken-griffin-most-expensive-home-ever-sold-us-nyc-penthouse-2019-1?fbclid=IwAR1bZZI0gJw66dUYGGyswZSOofBzZnEUa1pVR7vJacAjtdolkDi_-G-HoGY
I really hate the misuse of the word "capitalism". "Socialism" is a form of government, "Capitalism" is not.
China allows the private sector. And despite what many think, Hitler did not outlaw the private sector, that still existed under his rule. But what he did with the private sector was to steal it from society and reward his cronies.
I agree with ending this type of greed though. The more you jack up prices like this guy paid, without raising wages for the rest of society, the more people get priced out of the ability to make ends meet and save money.
There is socialism already in America. The billionaires socialize the wins between themselves and shareholders when they win and socialize the losses on the tax payers when they lose. Bush's great recession is a prime example of that.
The problem isn't getting rid of the private sector. The problem is that we need to get back to pre Reagan regulations that enforce regulations on Wall Street and enforce anti monopoly concepts.
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RE: Dispatches From the Revolution
February 1, 2019 at 11:02 am
(February 1, 2019 at 2:20 am)Cecelia Wrote: How easily the rich forget that when the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich.
After all, junk food is the most capitalistic of things.
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RE: Dispatches From the Revolution
February 1, 2019 at 12:02 pm
(February 1, 2019 at 10:57 am)Brian37 Wrote: (January 25, 2019 at 7:10 pm)Yonadav Wrote: From Robert Reich:
"This story epitomizes exactly what is wrong with the American economy. Billionaire hedge-fund manager Ken Griffin just paid $238 million for a New York City penthouse, shattering the record for the most expensive home ever sold in America.
Griffin is also one of the biggest donors in American politics. However, Griffin changed his political affiliation from Democrat to Republican after President Obama tried to crack down on tax breaks for hedge funds. Since then, he has made more than a million dollars in contributions to conservative causes. Oh and by the way, Griffin also received a $200 million government bailout during the financial collapse of 2008.
America has generous socialism for the rich, and cold, hard capitalism for everyone else. We must end this vicious cycle of money, power, and greed."
https://www.businessinsider.com/ken-griffin-most-expensive-home-ever-sold-us-nyc-penthouse-2019-1?fbclid=IwAR1bZZI0gJw66dUYGGyswZSOofBzZnEUa1pVR7vJacAjtdolkDi_-G-HoGY
I really hate the misuse of the word "capitalism". "Socialism" is a form of government, "Capitalism" is not.
China allows the private sector. And despite what many think, Hitler did not outlaw the private sector, that still existed under his rule. But what he did with the private sector was to steal it from society and reward his cronies.
I agree with ending this type of greed though. The more you jack up prices like this guy paid, without raising wages for the rest of society, the more people get priced out of the ability to make ends meet and save money.
There is socialism already in America. The billionaires socialize the wins between themselves and shareholders when they win and socialize the losses on the tax payers when they lose. Bush's great recession is a prime example of that.
The problem isn't getting rid of the private sector. The problem is that we need to get back to pre Reagan regulations that enforce regulations on Wall Street and enforce anti monopoly concepts.
You really hate everything, and usually because you misunderstand it. That's textbook hatred from ignorance. Reich didn't misuse the words capitalism or socialism. He didn't say that capitalism is a form of government. You just ignorantly think that he did, so you hate it. And incidentally, socialism isn't a 'form of government'. Socialism is more of a form of economics in which a governing body owns the means of production. And capitalism is a form of economics in which income is derived from ostensibly private capital.
Socialism and capitalism are not mutually exclusive. Capitalism can't exist without a certain amount of socialism. Reich is an expert, and his complaints are about socialized costs that benefit the wealthy almost exclusively. It's this little thing called corporate welfare. Griffin is a welfare queen.
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RE: Dispatches From the Revolution
February 1, 2019 at 12:05 pm
(February 1, 2019 at 2:20 am)Cecelia Wrote: How easily the rich forget that when the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Dispatches From the Revolution
February 1, 2019 at 12:27 pm
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(February 1, 2019 at 12:02 pm)Yonadav Wrote: (February 1, 2019 at 10:57 am)Brian37 Wrote: I really hate the misuse of the word "capitalism". "Socialism" is a form of government, "Capitalism" is not.
China allows the private sector. And despite what many think, Hitler did not outlaw the private sector, that still existed under his rule. But what he did with the private sector was to steal it from society and reward his cronies.
I agree with ending this type of greed though. The more you jack up prices like this guy paid, without raising wages for the rest of society, the more people get priced out of the ability to make ends meet and save money.
There is socialism already in America. The billionaires socialize the wins between themselves and shareholders when they win and socialize the losses on the tax payers when they lose. Bush's great recession is a prime example of that.
The problem isn't getting rid of the private sector. The problem is that we need to get back to pre Reagan regulations that enforce regulations on Wall Street and enforce anti monopoly concepts.
You really hate everything, and usually because you misunderstand it. That's textbook hatred from ignorance. Reich didn't misuse the words capitalism or socialism. He didn't say that capitalism is a form of government. You just ignorantly think that he did, so you hate it. And incidentally, socialism isn't a 'form of government'. Socialism is more of a form of economics in which a governing body owns the means of production. And capitalism is a form of economics in which income is derived from ostensibly private capital.
Socialism and capitalism are not mutually exclusive. Capitalism can't exist without a certain amount of socialism. Reich is an expert, and his complaints are about socialized costs that benefit the wealthy almost exclusively. It's this little thing called corporate welfare. Griffin is a welfare queen.
No I do not hate everything. I love my late mother. I love my pet cat. And as most long time members here know, I am a huge fan of ABBA.
Socialism is not mutually exclusive from capitalism. NO KIDDING..... But they still are not the same thing. Just like peanut butter and chocolate are not the same but can overlap and make a Reese's.
Just like it is a myth that all closed dictatorships ban religion. Cuba and China have plenty of houses of worship in them. Cuba is a majority Catholic nation and China is a mix of Buddhism, and other Asian religions. Russia even under Stalin was STILL a majority Russian Orthodox Christian, as it is still today.
What theocracies like Saudi Arabia and Iran and states like Cuba and China, ban, isn't religion, but ANY AND ALL DISSENT. Closed states will tolerate anyone who tows the party line. What oppressive closed states don't tolerate is any dissent, from any section of the population, not just religion.
Socialism and capitalism CAN overlap yes, but only one is a form of government, "Capitalism" merely means to "capitalize off the sale of resources" and there is is no nation, friend or foe alike that does not partake in the global market. You can only argue that some states do a better job at it than others, but that still does not change every nation needs resources.
I hate bad logic, not human rights. So please get that right.
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