(December 9, 2017 at 5:28 pm)wallym Wrote:"Nothing about a reality that is not our own can be assumed."(December 9, 2017 at 3:48 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: You can always use hypothetical possible worlds to prove things.
I disagree for the reasons I said. Nothing about a reality that is not our own can be assumed. That's the whole point of God in the first place. To have a being that doesn't play by the rules we observe in our reality to explain things we couldn't otherwise explain. So you're free to make up whatever you want and there's no way to argue for it being true or false, because we don't have access to the hypothetical reality.
We can speculate for fun. We can try to apply the rules of our own reality to the hypothetical reality. But that doesn't meet any standards of proof. It's just guessing.
Nothing about your own relative reality can be "assumed". Everything within our relative reality should also NEVER be denied. Including our own subjective morality! We just have to run with it. Since, according to God, ALL men are liars (including Paul whom wrote that).
We all reach a point in our lives where we realize that where not alone here. That is a base of operations. As we all seek truth which exists beyond a perceived, and very limiting "accepted base norm", in a 360 degree circle, and each continuing to push the limits in any pursuit of truth, then we should all come back to base to learn from each other so that we can all continue to push the limits in our own direction with information learned from someone else going 180, 90, 45 degrees away from us. And us teaching them. So that, we ourselves, and them themselves, can continue to push any invented limits!
IOW's I'll teach you cooking beyond the "accepted" norm if you'll teach me physics beyond the "accepted" norm. But we'll have to keep secrets!