(December 10, 2017 at 8:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Going to premise 1. If premise 1 is true, than it's conclusion is proven.
That is "If moral facts exist, then morality is real".
That itself is a moral fact, if it were true, than it would be true that morality is true.
Since people agreed on 1 and you agreed on it, than there is no point of changing your mind. Go with what you initially know because everyone can in their rebellion against submitting to God deny every premise.
Other Atheists agreed 1 was logical as well but disagreed on premise 2.
But premise one contains a secret weapon, it is a moral fact itself!
Premise one is a fact about morality, not itself a moral fact, you dumbass.