(December 11, 2017 at 10:30 am)Grandizer Wrote:(December 11, 2017 at 10:21 am)wallym Wrote: Here's the thing with the origins of the universe: It's above your paygrade. At best, all you can do is just parrot what some fancy mathematician/physicist says. And it's not like you're checking their math to make sure you agree with their conclusion. You just pick a person who seems really smart, and decide they are who you agree with.
I don't have to do mathematics or physics. I am mainly doing some logic and philosophy, which almost any human being is capable of doing with enough interest and motivation.
I only bring up the science when others force me to bring up the science, and I never speak with authority on these matters. I let scientists do the talking.
Quote:Just have a bit of humility, and when the topic of the origin of the universe comes up, shrug your shoulders and say "who the fuck knows?" Because the answer to that is both not you and not the theist making whatever argument they are making.
I never said I know what caused the origin of the universe, if it did have an origin. You're strawmanning me here.
Quote:The alternative, is that you take a stance that you can only sort of understand, because you're just some random person watching youtube videos, and smart theists like Steve as seen above, can 'score points' on you, because there's no way for you to speak on the topic with any authority.
No, asshole, I did not just simply watch YouTube videos. I've read articles and book chapters on the philosophy of time as well. Go do your sociopath character undermining speech elsewhere, dickhead.
I didn't realize you read book chapters. I take it all back. Keep applying logic and intuition without the math and science to counter-intuitive concepts rooted in math in science. If there ever was a recipe for success, that's probably it.