(December 11, 2017 at 4:45 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(December 11, 2017 at 3:08 am)ignoramus Wrote: Atlas... How can you say or feel that Islam is the underlying core issue here?
Are you subconsciously insulting your country but being very sensitive to defending your god?
To the rest of us non muslims it seems obvious ...
It's not my country.
How is Islam responsible, for the British empire's plans of colonization ? You know, the British are the ones who made this kingdom; supported it with golden pounds and superior weapons as a back stab to the Ottoman empire.
Blaming Islam for the acts of the Wahhabi cult, and the corrupted local thugs chosen by the British to be the "royalty" is the problem here.
It's even in the interest of the western common man to know this tiny truth.
Atlass33, it is RELIGION itself, all of them, even Christianity and Jews. All three stem from the same claim of the God of Abraham, and ALL THREE claim divine entitlement of land, that is an idea of antiquity, and is unfortunately still today why Israel is a mess. It is not an either or thing for me. The west is hardly perfect and it too is full of right wing nuts, and war mongers, but it still remains that far too much of the east is still stuck in the past by comparison.
I most certainly have a problem with Bibi Nuttyfuckhoo, and I currently think 45 deciding to make things worse does piss me off. But the fact remains humans act on their religious beliefs, for both good or bad, and those beliefs become political and are used by respective leaders, both in the west and in the east.
If there were no Islam, no Koran, there would be no sub sect interpretation "Wahhabi" , just like if there were no Bible you wouldn't have assholes on the far right "evangelicals" whom want the end of the world to come in their time. If there was no Hebrew Scripture, you wouldn't have an asshole like Bibi in charge.
Now again, you cannot force any religion out of existence unless you want WW3 or genocide, and most sane humans don't want that. But it isn't all the fault of the west either. I think humans simply don't want to face, on either side, that religion is a horrible way to conduct national, much less global politics.
