RE: Emotions are intrinsically good and bad
December 13, 2017 at 2:14 pm
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2017 at 2:17 pm by bennyboy.)
(December 13, 2017 at 8:53 am)Hammy Wrote: "Good" is a word. But the good is not
(December 13, 2017 at 8:49 am)bennyboy Wrote: IF hedonic states are good, they are intrinsically good, but that's just by your definition. It really doesn't mean anything to say that.
Isn't that the way words always work?
"If neurological states are real, they are real, but that's just by your definition. It doesn't really mean anything to say that neurology is real."
You could say that about anything lol.
We use words to label things in reality that are real. No one can or has to 'prove that their definition is the correct one'.
Even science can't do that.
If I say roses are intrinsically rosy, what am I really saying?
There's no revelation of truth to be found there, just a reworking of word forms.
(December 13, 2017 at 10:57 am)Transcended Dimensions Wrote: I, myself, have never experienced any real joy, good value, or beauty independent of my positive emotions and I have never experienced any real horror, tragedy, despair, bad value, etc. in my life independent of my negative emotions.It's like you are programmed to respond to words without actually understanding them.
You have never experienced any real joy independent of your positive emotions? Ermmm. . . maybe that's because joy is the name for one kind or category of positive emotion? It's like saying you've never experienced a table independent of flatness. Would you really want to go on for 100 pages about how tables are intrinsically flat-topped?
