(December 18, 2017 at 10:51 pm)Bow Before Zeus Wrote:(December 18, 2017 at 9:28 pm)SteveII Wrote: Okay, so you didn't mean "dead", you meant invalidated. Same thing.
But you still need to answer my second point: https://atheistforums.org/post-1674319.html#pid1674319
Does science disprove the Adam and Eve myth? That's what the original post was about! Evolution quite clearly disproves an Adam and Eve. There was no such thing as a "first human". This is a scientific fact.
You are avoiding the point because it destroys yours. I'll post it again:
2. Has science disproved Adam and Eve? Again, no. But here's the thing: I don't even have to argue that point because you wrongly assume that Christianity hinges on the Doctrine of Original Sin. Christianity hinges on everyone sinning (a fact that cannot be disputed). In fact, the doctrine of original sin has a wide variety of positions to choose from:
Quote: Wrote:Original sin, also called ancestral sin,[1] is the Christian doctrine of humanity's state of sin resulting from the fall of man, stemming from Adam and Eve's rebellion in Eden, namely the sin of disobedience in consuming from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.[2] This condition has been characterized in many ways, ranging from something as insignificant as a slight deficiency, or a tendency toward sin yet without collective guilt, referred to as a "sin nature", to something as drastic as total depravity or automatic guilt of all humans through collective guilt.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin
So, your argument can be more properly rephrased as:
If a prospective Christian decides that he must be a Bible literalist (as to Genesis 1-3) or nothing AND he happens to study the Doctrine of Original Sin and finds John Calvin's position the most convincing AND he thinks that science has disproven any Adam and Eve AND there are no other reasons Christianity appeals to him, THEN he will not become a Christian and THEREFORE Christianity "is dead".
Your understanding of Christianity is so simplistic. You post these threads with the titles that promise some big theme and then repeatedly fail to deliver. When are you going to learn that you are not intellectually equipped or knowledgeable enough to pull that off? Perhaps you should start posting threads that ask questions instead of the empty claims--and learn something.