Men's Rights Movement

[Catholic_Lady]

Given the history of oppression against women, CL, I doubt it's as simple as all that. Remember, white guys hated us more than black people, whom the white-wigged white guys really hated. So much so, that we only got the vote in the last century. There's no denying the oppression's there.

I get that theres been a lot of oppression in the past, but we are talking about today.

I feel like there aren't more women CEO's or whatever because less women than men are interested in that sort of thing, and/or they put more priority in motherhood. It's faulty to point to the lack of women in high powered career fields and assume it's because women aren't given the same opportunity simply for being female.

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I've never met an MRA person, but when I watched the documentary, they do raise some valid points. Things I had never considered or thought of before.

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And Cap, as for the CEO and other more high powered jobs thing, that may just be because women generally tend to be less career orientated than men.

...Because most of us do go on to get pregnant and have children, and when that happens, we tend to prioritize that above all else. Women can still work and get pregnant and take care of their babies, but they probably won't have AS MUCH time and energy for work related stuff because they have to balance that with the demands of pregnancy and motherhood. Since we are the ones who get pregnant and breastfeed, it is only natural that human society evolved as the women staying home to do that while the father goes out to work to provide for us, bring home the food that feeds us, etc. I know it doesn't have to be that way now a days bc we have baby sitters and day care and all that, and we can even use baby formula and have the dad stay home with the baby instead of the mom. But it still plays a major role.

I think the lack of women in demanding, high powered jobs is mostly because of that^ rather than because women are somehow being discriminated against in the work force.

5% Catholiclady, not 35%, not 30%. I think that the explanation given for the wage gap, but it's a totally unsatisfactory one for the leadership gap. Oh, women don't want to be ceos, they'd much rather breastfeed. What nonsense. The women who want to be CEOs are a self selecting group, just like the men who want to, and there is probably little crossover between them and stay at home mommies.

Plus, if it's all about egalitarianism like MRAs claim, then men can take care of the kids and the number would be more even, not less. Their arguments are shit and not even consistent, like that one.

They can decide if they want to copy feminism or just nay say everything. Because they have no philosophical leg to stand on.

Why is that nonesense? You think being a mom is less dignified and less fulfilling? What do you think then is the reason? You think women are being unfairly discriminated against in the work force?

I don't think there's anything alarming about the 5% number. There are very few women pilots as well (5%, actually), and it's not because they aren't allowed to be or because sexism is holding them back. Some jobs are just more male orientated and/or require a lot of time and dedication that many women don't prioritize because they are mothers.