(December 21, 2017 at 11:47 am)Thena323 Wrote: Sure, Tibs. It's completely fair and reasonable to cast aspersions about the integrity of ENTIRE movement, because you're apparently unable to stop clicking on feminist extremists' Youtube channels.
I didn't say the integrity of the entire movement is affected, but they do reflect badly on the movement. As long as they use the term "feminist" they will do that. As I've stated before, there's division within the movement anyway, usually with sex positivism. Some feminists oppose sex workers and think they are anti-feminist, some feminists say sex workers are pro-feminist because they are free to use their bodies how they like. Egalitarians believe the latter.
Quote:"They just can't be ignored."
LOL....Sure they can, if you can somehow manage to divorce yourself from your commitment to confirmation bias.
You can ignore them, sure, but you do so at your peril. As long as they remain in focus of the media, they will corrupt feminism further.
(December 21, 2017 at 2:12 am)Thena323 Wrote: heh heh....Don't need to. You've done a BANG-UP JOB of demonstrating that all by yourself.
Note how you whine about my alleged "unfair labeling of egalitarians" while simultaneously bitching about all of those "batshit crazy" feminists who are out to get "discredit" you, and you how you automatically defaulted to the (wrongful) assumption that I was making an assessment based on your "white maleness".
You've shown a remarkable willingness to employ woefully slopping thinking in regards to feminism that I'm almost certain wouldn't cut it for you in regards to most anything else.
Ok, firstly my comment about it being code for "white male" was a joke. I kinda thought that was obvious, but perhaps not. I missed your sarcasm earlier, so you're forgiven for missing mine.
I'm just telling you what it's like arguing with some feminists online, they will legitimately try to discredit my opinion just because I'm a man, which is the pinnacle of irony seeing as that's one of the things feminism is supposed to be against. They use terms like "mansplaining" too. So yeah, I reserve my right to bitch about the batshit crazy feminists, and point out that I'm not referring to regular feminists when I do that. Most feminists I know don't act the way the fringe groups do, but still, the fringe groups are a real, vocal, problem. Problems like them don't just go away by ignoring them.
Quote:No, I used to think that you might be.
Now I KNOW.![]()
It is a fact: You clearly share many of the anti-feminist sentiments of the MRA/Alt Right movements.
That, by definition makes you a sympathizer, does it not?
Now, I understand that that's probably not something you'd feel comfortable confessing to, given the left-leaning tilt of this forum. But no worries, Kitten...
Your little secret's safe with me.
Ok, so firstly I'm not anti-feminist, I am a feminist. I'm personally against using the term "feminist" as a label since I think it's corrupted by the fringe groups, and for that reason I also don't use the term "MRA" to describe myself either. "Egalitarian" is a perfect word because it's all-encompassing.
Secondly, even if I did share some of the sentiments of MRA/Alt-Right movements, that doesn't make me a sympathizer. Most people are a blend of different political views. Am I a Trump sympathizer because I supported his rejection of the TPP? Hardly. I oppose the man, I don't think he should be President, and I'll vote against him in 2020, but just because we agree on a few things doesn't make me a sympathizer.
Finally, I backed Bernie Sanders, who is pretty much as far left a candidate as you can get in American politics and still be viable. We still have a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker on the back of our car. Politically I'm more of a centrist libertarian. I reject the alt-right, I find them disgusting.