Men's Rights Movement

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No true Scotsman

I knew that was coming and I'm too tired of explaining what the fallacy actually is.

Most people who call it out don't even understand the fallacy and they're doing the equivalent of saying that "No true circles have five sides" is a fallacy.

I would bother to explain what the fallacy actually is (the misunderstanding of the fallacy seems infinitely more common than a correct understanding of the fallacy!!!) but I've done it so many times it's getting tiring.

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Fallacy fallacy.

No. Incorrectly calling out a fallacy is not the Fallacy Fallacy . . . you are just incorrectly calling out an incorrect calling out of a fallacy. That's what you're doing.

I'll explain the Fallacy Fallacy because it's an easy one to explain and I'm not super tired of explaining it (almost no one seems to understand the NTS fallacy because the common misunderstanding is so widespread that people just repeat that misunderstanding over and over without bothering to read up on it properly): The Fallacy Fallacy is when you say that the truth of someone's conclusion is necessarily false just because the way they got there was fallacious. That itself is a fallacy because someone could be right about the conclusion by accident. Their reason for believing in their conclusion is faulty but the conclusion that they believe in nevertheless represents something true in reality.

Yeah your mostly right, for a change, except for the parts part of it not applying to Catholic Lady on saying "no true scotsman" because her entire argument is that the person is wrong because they used a no true Scotsman. How is that anything other than " say that the truth of someone's conclusion is necessarily false just because the way they got there was fallacious" when it's the entirety of her post. That is in fact, all you are saying when you make a post like that. Unless you presume that she thought the person she was replying to was right. Which obviously she didn't.

I know it bothers you that even though you are obsessed with pointing out logical fallacies, I know more about them then you.