Men's Rights Movement

[Catholic_Lady]

I've never seen Tib lose his cool, and while I don't always agree with him, his points are always well thought out and objective. Calling him an alt right sympathizer and saying things like "someone like you" just makes me roll my eyes and feel tempted to disregard whatever else is being said.
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Have you seen the doc? I used to think the same thing about "men's rights." While I certainly wouldn't call myself MRA, I see now that men do have their own set of disadvantages.

He literally called Thena a dipshit in like, his second or third interaction with her in this thread. And finished most of his arguements with some kind of personal attack. I know it's atheist forums, and the standard for civility is not exactly a high one, but that should qualify.

I probably haven't seen that doc, but I have seen lots made by MRAs. I read a lot of opinions from people I don't agree with. Basically I've covered most of my objections. My main one is a little more abstract actually, I am a big believer in manliness as a virtue, and I really see none of it coming from these guys. Complaining incesently is unmanly. Complaining when you have almost every position of power in the world is unmanly. The whole movement detracts from my personal esthetic of how a man should behave in the world. With honor and dignity and self sufficiency. A real man would never complain that women are oppressing him! If I think of a manly man, it's like a woodsman, or lumberjack. And that guy is never going to whine about being oppressed by feminism.

To be fair, his dipshit comment came as a response to getting called one. His name wasn't used, but it seems he was exactly who was being talked about. Because it was referring to people who use the word egalitarianism, and he was the only one who had. It came off as a passive agressive jab at him personally. Responding to being passive aggressively called dipshit by calling that person dipshit in return hardly warrants being accused of being an alt right sympathizer.

But anyway, I don't want to create a further tangent out of this. I'll let Tib speak for himself from this point.

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Second paragraph:

Ok, I actually do like what you're saying here and my husband said a similar thing when he watched with me. I agree with you. If I met a guy who talked about men's rights, I'd find it extremely unattractive and unmanly. But as for the points themselves... well, i can stand behind many of the points raised. Men do have certain disadvantages and im not going to deny that just because it sounds unattractive coming from a man.