(December 25, 2017 at 5:26 pm)Grandizer Wrote:(December 25, 2017 at 11:28 am)SaStrike Wrote: You're just nitpicking in order to skew the stats into favouring the point you are trying to force. A job is a job, it was only an example anyway. Why not mention the many ads that require PA's or secretary which state female only? Had it said male only I'm sure somehow those would be included in your range of things to point out. But all of a sudden it's "prob not a loss" (just one example of the excuses and selective logic made by both feminists and mra).
Actually, yes, I am nitpicking. Because my argument here isnt that women cant get relatively low-status jobs like secretary or nurse. Its that they are less likely to be CEOs or surgeons. And in the example you provided earlier, even in the case of a low status job like bouncer, you wouldve still gone for men over women in most cases. You were being selective yourself by conveniently selecting between two specific members.
The bouncer example wasn't that serious.
I know there are less women in engineering as I personally saw this as a student and see it in the field. But it isn't because an even number of men and women applied for the job (as I said it is from college that the numbers were already like that). Unless you want women to apply for engineering jobs that they don't qualify for? As Cath_Lady said, it is most of the time the women's choice not to study it.
It can be nitpicked again as in WHY not as much women as men study it, so feminism has a point (and so does mra with other factors), but to say it's discrimination in job applications doesn't tell the full story.
I'm not saying there is NO discrimination, in any part of society there is. But feminism and MRA is like choosing what discrimination you prefer and then focusing and exaggerating on that. Feminism and MRA are good, just not the radical stuff. I don't get why the two seem to butt heads frequently and don't agree with eachother's existence (not all fems/mras, but I've seen it a lot, even in this thread)