Men's Rights Movement

[GrandizerII]

Actually, yes, I am nitpicking. Because my argument here isnt that women cant get relatively low-status jobs like secretary or nurse. Its that they are less likely to be CEOs or surgeons. And in the example you provided earlier, even in the case of a low status job like bouncer, you wouldve still gone for men over women in most cases. You were being selective yourself by conveniently selecting between two specific members.

2. You confuse patriarchy with men . Patriarchy is not a evil group of men who are oppressing women. It's a cultural idea(often held by men and women ) that locks woman and men into a certain  social context  . Often to the detriment of both genders. 

Devil's advocate here. I remember reading some time back that CEOs tend to be "taller than average" and that being over six-feet-tall was commonplace among CEOs.

Anyway, isn't "patriarchy" a bit too broad of a brush to paint with? Women on average are not as tall as men. Perhaps other factors (like height) come into play that have little to do with patriarchy or traditional gender roles, but still add to the disparity between genders concerning professional pursuits.

Im with you. In fact, Rev Rye basically argued the same thing. And I agreed with him/her. But just because there are other factors involved doesnt mean this one factor (male privilege) has been ruled out or no longer partly explains what we see in this reality. The problem with MRAs and other such groups is they deny totally the existence of male privilege as a factor in todays Western society, whether explicitly or implicitly.

And its not like experiments have not shown that there is gender discrimination going on against women in such settings as academic settings for example. When asked to select between this candidate or that candidate knowing only their names and nothing else, studies showed both men and women were more likely to hire those whose names sounded male over those considered names for women.

To be clear, the type of discrimination happening isnt consciously based on some bitter and angry prejudice against women. Rather whats happening is people are more likely to trust men over women in higher status jobs and thus more likely to hire them.