RE: Men's Rights Movement
December 25, 2017 at 9:26 pm
(This post was last modified: December 25, 2017 at 9:34 pm by Amarok.)
(December 25, 2017 at 9:14 pm)paulpablo Wrote:Not being 0 does not mean not being a overwhelmingly dominant factor oh and their is the notion of how those mental differences effect things like reaction to stereotypes and social pressure . As for science their is plenty to back my point .(December 25, 2017 at 8:07 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: 1. It's not mind control it's simply altering culture . Just like every other civil rights movement . You can pass all the laws you want . If the culture remains unchanged no progress will be made . And this has fuck all to do with tastes .
2. You confuse patriarchy with men . Patriarchy is not a evil group of men who are oppressing women. It's a cultural idea(often held by men and women ) that locks woman and men into a certain social context . Often to the detriment of both genders.
3. There may be 00000000000'1 percent of feminist who object to women being house wives .But it's not mainstream position by any stretch . And i point out there are more then enough MRA's who don't believe men should be stay at home dad's and will call them "Cucks" or "Manginia's " if they choose it .
4. As for this strawman of "radical feminists " it's just that a strawman . Woman 2 is figment of your imagination . And funny enough sounds a lot more like a typical poster at a AVFM just reverse the genders and the politics.
The life choices argument does not work . As i have said . Via the notion of cultural pressure in a broad social context . (Please note i'm not saying men are oppressing women neither are most mainstream modern feminists . Most men and women have no clue their in this dance and both are being hurt by it.)
Sorry to Strike and Paul if my tone seems hostile . It's nothing personal . Just a subject i have been deeply involved in both professionally and personally .
I don't take anything you've said personal.
My argument isn't that there is no involvement in cultural pressure in relation to choices.
But it's also that men and women do have different innate behavioral tendencies which would still result in different job choices. It's true that men and women exhibit different tendencies in a lot of areas such as violence, risk taking, becoming obsessive over different types of things in different ways, different levels of autism.
Going back to music production again, the higher rate of autism might account for the higher rate of males wanting to sit behind a computer staying awake for days obsessively looking over music related things such as samples and synths. But I do think part of the choice for men to do that is also cultural.
This isn't an argument about any particular job role or CEO statistics or to suggest sexism doesn't exist or anything of that kind of nature.
It's just an observation, and scientifically backed up, that the contribution of biology to the differences between males and females in terms of behavior isn't 0.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ful...n-less-men
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