Men's Rights Movement

[Shell B]

Indeed if you were to remove the douchebags . The movement would have no star power. You also have to get the movement to decouple itself from the scummy PUA movement and MGTOW's . Oh and White Nationalists . Their is no real chance of that happening .

One could say the same about feminazis, etc. I'm sure MRAs say feminism isn't going to "decouple" itself from man-hating feminists and justify themselves the same way. It's clear from this thread alone that both sides are demonizing the other in much the same way Conservatives and Liberals do. Both have legitimate complaints, perhaps one more than the other, but that doesn't change that there are some issues with each label or at least "fringe" people using each label. It also doesn't change the fact that there are some feminists who adhere to a very (hu)man-friendly "code," so to speak, and there are MRAs who are just upset about something like prison sentences or losing their kids unfairly in court and don't hate women at all. Just as it's important to me not to use these labels for myself, I do try (not always successfully) to take each person who assumes one of these labels at face value, as individuals. "MRAs are all . . . " or "Feminists are all . . ." statements can never be accurate. I try not assume an MRA is a masochist until proven otherwise. I give feminists the same benefit of the doubt until they prove otherwise.

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Every group has the right to advocate for its own rights in society.

Well put.