RE: Men's Rights Movement
December 28, 2017 at 1:34 pm
(This post was last modified: December 28, 2017 at 1:36 pm by GrandizerII.)
(December 28, 2017 at 1:15 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(December 28, 2017 at 12:58 pm)Grandizer Wrote: That's what feminism generally is. Gender equality. The Red Pill guys don't seem to give two shits about advancing men's rights, they just want to have the "right" to be misogynists without shame.
She'd prefer to be an advocate for women's issues and men's issues without taking on the title of either feminist or MRA. Is that allowed? I'm not sure why you seem bothered by this. She supports women's issues. Why do you care whether or not she chooses to label herself feminist?
Ill tell you what. If you disagree with or have a problem with anything she said on her ted talk (besides her choosing not to use the label feminist for herself I guess), please let us know what that is so we can talk about it rather than talking about random anonymous people on reddit. If you don't disagree with anything she says, then it seems you and I have nothing to argue about here.
I disagree with discarding the label "feminist" because that is going in accordance with what misogynistic anti-feminist assholes desire. They want women to see feminism as a bad thing because it means that if you're willing to let go of the label itself, you're more willing to agree that male privilege is not really a thing, that there is no such thing as patriarchy or rape culture, that men don't have to make any effort to better themselves in their treatment of women, that men only can continue to be in dominant positions as enabled by traditional expectations. I want women to be enabled to think they are just as good as men, that they can be assertive and even aggressive without being called bitches while men continue to get away with being aggressive, that they can be free to pursue even the really high status positions without people discouraging them from doing so or putting them down, that they can decide for themselves how to live their lives without people dictating for them. And I want men to be able to say to themselves that it's ok to seek help, that it's not "unmanly" to do so, and that the way to get help is to cooperate with feminist women (not do a kneejerk backlash movement against them).
Getting rid of the label is more than just getting rid of the label. It's saying "fuck you" to women's rights.
