Men's Rights Movement

[FFaith]

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The fact that you wouldn't be taken seriously is exactly the problem that men face in society.


The fact that she would have been taken more seriously than you is exactly the problem that men face in society.


Again, do your research. It's not "a couple of things", and even if it was, it shouldn't matter. The fact that there is any discrimination against men in society is bad. Just because women face worse discrimination doesn't mean we should just ignore the discrimination faced by men or put it off to a later date, we can fix multiple issues at the same time.


That's not sexism towards women dude, that's sexism towards men.


...then that's sexist towards both men and women simultaneously.


I don't think the solution is as simple as you seem to think it is.

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I agree that those issues still matter. I am not going to fall for the Perfect Solution Fallacy.

But I do think the discrimination against men is entirely caused by sexism against women.

I do think the solution is simple. I think a lot of solutions are simple. In principle. That doesn't make them easy in practice.

I mean, the solution to Trump is simple: Impeach the fucker. But that doesn't mean it's gonna be easy to get that done.

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The White Lives Matter comparison is dumb. Does Neil Degrasse Tyson hate atheism just because he doesn't want to be labeled an atheist? Of course not.

I don't get what your point about labeling or not labeling oneself has to do with anything. And I haven't seen you explain anywhere why the White Lives Matter comparison is dumb.

There must be some racism against white people. And if it were caused by some black people taking revenge and feeling like the white people 'deserved it' even though they didn't, and therefore the cause was actually racism against black people... that would be relevant.

If men are only mistreated in cases where the sexist stereotypes against women leave men at a disadvantage in some situations because sometimes men are too hard on themselves (men who get mistreated by women are seen as weak and left aside by other men . . . and men are the ones who constructed a society where women are told they are the ones who need to focus more on child rearing. The mistreatment of a few men is only a disadvantage to the minority of men... to the majority (or the powerful minorites) of men it just gives them more power. This is absolutely more examples of sexism against women).

I think in the cases where men are discriminated against, it's due to men doing that to themselves. It's very clear that society has been basically built by men while women have been left aside and it's only in the last few decades that women have been able to fight back. The more fighting back women do, and the more men support their rights, the less discrimination there will be against both men and women.

Thena323 actually compared the term egalitarianism to All Lives Matter, not White Lives Matter. Sorry about that. The way I see it, All Lives Matter was first used as sort of a way to troll BLM, and has been most often used on MSM by people basically arguing that blacks are responsible for the mess they find themselves in, and that they need to pull themselves out of it without outside help. People who prefer the label egalitarianism, I find to be the most reasonable on average. It is my experience that they are usually more reasonable on average than people who label themselves either feminist or MRA. That's the difference.