RE: Does atheism oppose the world religions?
January 1, 2018 at 4:10 pm
(This post was last modified: January 1, 2018 at 6:04 pm by Simon Moon.)
(January 1, 2018 at 9:48 am)cosmology Wrote: Is it necessary to debate between atheism and a religion?
The bold man has no hair. We can say, what he has non-existent hair. The atheist comes to any theist, looks at his god. This god has following properties, according to theist: (or any properties the theist thinks of his god). Then, the procedure of atheism removes one single property from this list: existence. Remains: loving, judging, omnipresent, etc.
So, the atheists encompasses all gods of theism-s, but removing the property of existence. So, one can finally conclude what atheism is: it is having the Nonexistent Loving God, so an atheist feels free today to love and tomorrow to reject love's existence. Am I right?
No need for militant atheism -- Existent God and Nonexistent God are two different Gods:
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Sorry, but existence is not an attribute.
It sounds like you are saying (correct me if I am misunderstanding), "here are 2 different gods, one has the following attributes: existent, loving, judging, omnipresent, etc. And the other one has all the same attributes, except it doesn't exist".
But if something doesn't exist, it can not have the types of attributes you are assigning to it (except maybe as a fictional character).
As for love, it is the label we put on a series of feelings we experience. It is part of our biology.
Love does not exist on its own without humans experiencing it. It's not like love is floating around in the universe waiting to inhabit a person.
I debate theists because many forms of theism have real world, negative consequences.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
