Under no circumstance should cops KILL

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I was referring to the people who don't want the cops to shoot unless they are 100 % sure that the perp has a gun, and that it is being pointed at them and about to be used. That's an unreasonable standard, and the people arguing that position simply do not care one way or the other whether the cops live or die. Of course the police should not shoot unless they think their lives are at risk. Some cops shoot too soon, and those cops aren't fit to be cops.

It's not an unreasonable standard, it's a high standard - and it's achievable.  Mistakes will still occur, we know this.

Again, I do care about cops, what situations we put them in, whether that gets them shot, whether it compels them to shoot, and whether someone gets shot by a cop.  

Maybe some time in the future the cops won't have to kill many people, but the guns in the hands of the citizens will have to disappear first, and that's not happening anytime soon.

Another variation of "the people are the problem".  Well, okay, the amount of guns in peoples hands is a problem. So, slide the ratio around.  1/10 works in the UK, but it's different here.  How about 1 gun per car, two men to a car?  That's 50/50.

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If reducing the number of guns in people hands will have an effect x, wouldn't that also apply to the guns in cops hands?

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Heres a stat-

2016.  136 police officers died in the line of duty, includiong traffic fatalies (largely drunk driving) and dead drug sniffing dogs.  Not even kidding.  64 were firearm related.  In that same year, they shot and killed at least 936 people.

Yes, it is an extremely unreasonable standard and is pro-dead cop. It can be very reasonable to shoot and kill if a perp is asked to keep their hands where they can be seen and they reach for something in their pocket.

It doesn't make sense to take guns away from police. Try taking guns away from police in the US right now and see how many of them quit in protest. They need guns to defend their lives. I think cops should keep their guns, even if the citizens lose their gun rights.