RE: Under no circumstance should cops KILL
January 5, 2018 at 4:57 pm
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2018 at 4:59 pm by Brian37.)
(January 5, 2018 at 4:51 pm)FFaith Wrote:(January 5, 2018 at 4:03 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It's not an unreasonable standard, it's a high standard - and it's achievable. Mistakes will still occur, we know this.Yes, it is an extremely unreasonable standard and is pro-dead cop. It can be very reasonable to shoot and kill if a perp is asked to keep their hands where they can be seen and they reach for something in their pocket.
Again, I do care about cops, what situations we put them in, whether that gets them shot, whether it compels them to shoot, and whether someone gets shot by a cop.
Another variation of "the people are the problem". Well, okay, the amount of guns in peoples hands is a problem. So, slide the ratio around. 1/10 works in the UK, but it's different here. How about 1 gun per car, two men to a car? That's 50/50.
If reducing the number of guns in people hands will have an effect x, wouldn't that also apply to the guns in cops hands?
Heres a stat-
2016. 136 police officers died in the line of duty, includiong traffic fatalies (largely drunk driving) and dead drug sniffing dogs. Not even kidding. 64 were firearm related. In that same year, they shot and killed at least 936 people.
It doesn't make sense to take guns away from police. Try taking guns away from police in the US right now and see how many of them quit in protest. They need guns to defend their lives. I think cops should keep their guns, even if the citizens lose their gun rights.
Why doesn't it make sense to take guns away from cops? Very few in Japan have them.
Not saying right now that could work in America. But the reason Japan's cops don't need them is because their population isn't gun obsessed.
I agree cops need guns RIGHT NOW, but any sane cop will tell you they hope to never use lethal force. Problem I keep saying post after post, website after website, year after year is their use of firearms WILL NOT go down if they constantly have to face an armed public and the only training they get is "fear the worst and shoot first'.
It isn't just cops use of firearms, but the public too. Fear is being sold to both cops and society and so are firearms and that is what is creating the mistrust between cops and society.
