Under no circumstance should cops KILL

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One thing they do NOT need is better equipment, but they are getting plenty. Militarization of the police is ramping up, and that's not a good thing. That's another extreme. The US is already enough of a police state as is. Wanting the police to have way better equipment and wanting the police to have no guns at all are both terrible propositions.

I agree. 

We cant keep making police survival about material things. Everyone wants cops to make it home safely. I am sure Shell B does too. 

It isn't a matter of us vs them, cops vs society or society vs cops. Or I should say, it should not be.

The biggest thing, is economics, the second thing is TRUST. But neither of that can happen between society and cops if both have to fear the other being armed to the teeth. 

Now, don't get me wrong, I am not saying not armed at all, but again, both are flooded with weapons and that is good for profits, but lousy for creating trust between cops and society.

The "better" to me is not making so many. The "better" to me is not allowing combat spray weapons in private hands, or big clips. If you don't want cops armed with spray weapons and big clips, then why should they have to fear a public with the same thing?

And we SHOULD make it harder for domestic abusers, the mentally ill, and domestic and foreign terrorists to get their hands on them. No record at time of buy does not prevent the buyer from hurting others after the buy.

Yes, the biggest thing is economics. Trust is a big thing too. What trust can there be when the police look more like an occupying army to so many citizens? We agree here.

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One thing they do NOT need is better equipment, but they are getting plenty. Militarization of the police is ramping up, and that's not a good thing. That's another extreme. The US is already enough of a police state as is. Wanting the police to have way better equipment and wanting the police to have no guns at all are both terrible propositions.

Why do you assume I mean weapons when I say better equipment? I actually had in mind non-lethal methods of keeping themselves and the public safe, even if we need new innovations to make that happen. I never for a second was thinking better guns.

Sorry about that. I misinterpreted because I didn't really think the police were lacking in equipment all that much. More bullet proof vests make sense, and more police should have body cams. The body cams seem to have a decent effect, although things are still not great even with them, but are improved somewhat. The problem with non-lethal methods is that they can not always be trusted. Because of the adrenaline, it can take a lot to put someone down, and that puts the officer's life in danger. If there was a non-lethal method that was just as effective in taking perps down though, I'd definitely be in favour of that, as I'm sure almost everyone would. Police will be replaced with robots soon enough, and at that point we won't have to worry about the safety of the officer.