What's so great about atheism anyway?

[Godnose]

But my dear we ARE an island... at least in our own minds. THIS and this alone make the "moral responsibility" of the atheistic among us a most difficult task.

I don't say it's easy. I do say it's necessary.

Have you ever HAD to access a fragile mind?? Because this battle is all 'In the mind' where the heart holds sway...yeah poetic non-sense I am aware but.... we ARE dealing with people...they are NOT logical nor do they want to be.

Um ... er ... I think that is kinda what I was trying to say when I was going on (and on (and on(...))) elsewhere (in other threads) about wanting to form a kind of atheist church-like thingy-whatsname. Like ... er ... you gotta sort of join 'em to sort of beat 'em (or "woo" them would perhaps be a better word than "beat")

My OWN mind gets a bit fragile sometimes, btw. Logic is not my strong point, and I get confused quite a lot. But I'm pretty sure I'm right that leaving the world in the condition it is presently in is not the kindest thing to do for my grandchildren... So I feel kinda obliged to at least try...

On the subject of coffee by the way, I remember once when I was a kid of 16-ish or so, wandering around Bromley (that's on the edge of South London) one night I was accosted by some Jesus Freaks (er, I think they called themselves "Children of God" actually) and dragged off to their den "for coffee" where loads of other kids were rapping at each other (not "rapping" like rapping today, but like heavy talking. This was way back in the '60s) about the love of Jesus. Some twit kept asking me "Have you taken Jesus into your heart?" and I kept telling him I didn't have the foggiest notion what he was talking about - etc. Anyway, the point is, this "coffee" that I had been tempted there by was absolute utter filthy CRAP and I'd had a couple or five of pints (and nips too I think - I had a sort of recipe to get arseholed on, involved guinness, wine, bitter, and a nip in some order or another... wha'eva) so of course I quite happily told them so (that the coffee was crap I mean - not that I was totally sloshed - I guess they could sorta tell that probly). But anyway, I started going on about this crap coffee, like "if this Jesus fellah is such a fvcking brilliant teacher why doesn't he teach you lot to make a decent cup of coffee?" and so on. I remember someone saying something like "Well, it's free, so you can't complain" and of course I immediately started offering to pay them for a decent one ... and I wound some geezer up so much he took a flippin' swipe at me! Me a pacifist and wotnot (like one is at such a tender age). Ha ha ha - I floated outta there on the highest possible fvcking moral ground I could possibly imagine (at that age) and proudly displayed that bruise for the next week or so... proudly telling everyone I could how I'd got given it from a Jesus Freak! Tee hee!

Sorry about that. That kinda stuff is much quicker to remember than to relate!

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Oh do come on! You know perfectly well that God, Allah, all the rest of 'em are made up. You know it. That's knowledge.

No, I don't KNOW it. I don't know whether a god exists or not. I simply lack belief in such a thing.

Aha. So the Xtians are right then to say you think as an atheist you have the right to rape children and eat human flesh. Okidoke, enjoy!

You sound more and more like a typical Christian fanatic. You are a troll and I stand by my actions as a mod. Atheism has nothing to do with anything, even morality. This doesn't make me immoral. I can guide myself perfectly well.

Meaningless garbage to justify a complete cop-out. Get back under your duvet.

You have a huge misconception of atheism.
It is not an atheist's responsibility to do anything. An atheist is simply one without belief in god. If you can' get that, I don't think you ever will.

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Then there is absolutely no point anyone having any kind of discussion with you on any subject, because whatever the subject you will always be able to cop out on the basis of your nihilism or whatever fancy name you choose to give it.