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What's so great about atheism anyway?
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RE: What's so great about atheism anyway?
(August 24, 2011 at 8:51 am)Godnose Wrote:



Um ... er ... I think that is kinda what I was trying to say when I was going on (and on (and on(...))) elsewhere (in other threads) about wanting to form a kind of atheist church-like thingy-whatsname. Like ... er ... you gotta sort of join 'em to sort of beat 'em (or "woo" them would perhaps be a better word than "beat")

And there is the rub to Beat them at their own game is to BE as pontificating and sanctimonious and 'ALL knowing' as they are so you are NOT introducing a freedom from religion but another religion to take over from the abrahamic model. So who is better?? both have their flaws and to instigate 'Atheism' as the accepted model is of no service to your grandchildren just as much as theism is.

(August 24, 2011 at 8:51 am)Godnose Wrote: My OWN mind gets a bit fragile sometimes, btw. Logic is not my strong point, and I get confused quite a lot. But I'm pretty sure I'm right that leaving the world in the condition it is presently in is not the kindest thing to do for my grandchildren... So I feel kinda obliged to at least try...

Try ..oh most definitely YES
Beat the rest of the planet about YOUR belief?? Not in a unicorn's pink fit!!

(August 24, 2011 at 8:51 am)Godnose Wrote: On the subject of coffee by the way, I remember once when I was a kid of 16-ish or so, wandering around Bromley (that's on the edge of South London) one night I was accosted by some Jesus Freaks (er, I think they called themselves "Children of God" actually) and dragged off to their den "for coffee" where loads of other kids were rapping at each other (not "rapping" like rapping today, but like heavy talking. This was way back in the '60s) about the love of Jesus. Some twit kept asking me "Have you taken Jesus into your heart?" and I kept telling him I didn't have the foggiest notion what he was talking about - etc. Anyway, the point is, this "coffee" that I had been tempted there by was absolute utter filthy CRAP and I'd had a couple or five of pints (and nips too I think - I had a sort of recipe to get arseholed on, involved guinness, wine, bitter, and a nip in some order or another... wha'eva) so of course I quite happily told them so (that the coffee was crap I mean - not that I was totally sloshed - I guess they could sorta tell that probly). But anyway, I started going on about this crap coffee, like "if this Jesus fellah is such a fvcking brilliant teacher why doesn't he teach you lot to make a decent cup of coffee?" and so on. I remember someone saying something like "Well, it's free, so you can't complain" and of course I immediately started offering to pay them for a decent one ... and I wound some geezer up so much he took a flippin' swipe at me! Me a pacifist and wotnot (like one is at such a tender age). Ha ha ha - I floated outta there on the highest possible fvcking moral ground I could possibly imagine (at that age) and proudly displayed that bruise for the next week or so... proudly telling everyone I could how I'd got given it from a Jesus Freak! Tee hee!

Not much better than those you regale against?? tsk tsk

Ace has a point ...YOU do seem to be inconsistent in your thought patterns regarding atheism. Still being the high and moralistically mighty 16 year old??

hmm My dear there is nothing wrong with atheism per se. There is nothing wrong with those who have their belief in their 'sky-daddy' just so they DON'T shove it down the throats of our young ones is my issue. I have spent the best 28years of my life trying to educate my children on how to think for themselves, question EVERYTHING!! And not to be slaves to ANY political or theological mind set. I am reminded of a euphamism:
"Politics is the religion of the weak"

So my dear... your arguments may get a bit further as Summer Queen has sugested.. by being a bit more open to other people's oppinions and not so hardcore with your questions.

How far did you get at school??
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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Messages In This Thread
What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 2:23 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Cinjin - August 24, 2011 at 2:28 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 3:52 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 6:19 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by leo-rcc - August 24, 2011 at 4:02 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 4:07 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by leo-rcc - August 24, 2011 at 4:09 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 4:12 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 4:14 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by leo-rcc - August 24, 2011 at 4:14 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 4:19 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by leo-rcc - August 24, 2011 at 4:24 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 7:12 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 5:54 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 8:51 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Ace Otana - August 24, 2011 at 9:02 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by KichigaiNeko - August 24, 2011 at 9:24 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 9:42 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by THWOTH - August 24, 2011 at 10:20 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by THWOTH - August 24, 2011 at 9:31 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by theVOID - August 24, 2011 at 4:47 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by padraic - August 24, 2011 at 5:01 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Kayenneh - August 24, 2011 at 5:37 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by padraic - August 24, 2011 at 6:12 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Napoléon - August 24, 2011 at 6:53 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by THWOTH - August 24, 2011 at 6:56 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 7:07 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Kayenneh - August 24, 2011 at 7:08 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Ace Otana - August 24, 2011 at 7:11 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 7:27 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Ace Otana - August 24, 2011 at 7:34 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 8:10 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Ace Otana - August 24, 2011 at 8:26 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 7:35 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 7:45 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Ace Otana - August 24, 2011 at 9:33 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Godnose - August 24, 2011 at 9:59 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by Napoléon - August 24, 2011 at 10:37 am
RE: What's so great about atheism anyway? - by padraic - August 24, 2011 at 8:02 pm

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