(January 8, 2018 at 11:27 am)wallym Wrote: This strategy of 'find our own rich famous' person shows that people still don't quite understand why Trump got elected.
There's a skyscraper in the middle of NYC Trump built with his name on the front of it. If someone says what do you do, he can point to that. That's valuable in politics. Contrast with Romney who had a company that invested in other companies and helped turn them around. Even though that was a really big deal, he had to explain what he did, and people didn't really get it. Oprah will have the same problem. She's rich because of a tv show, magazine, radio, some licensing stuff, some good investments, and whatever else. But watching people turn celebrity into a shit ton of cash is sort of commonplace.
"I got rich by having my own tv show" is something Kim Kardashian can also say. I know it's more complicated than that, and that Oprah, or at least her handlers, have a lot of business savvy. And she has just as much money as Trump. But where is it when the average joe is looking? What is the tangibility of it. There's gravitas to construction.
If you're going to pick 'rich guy' it has to be someone like Bill Gates. And even then, I don't know if computers are going to resonate in the way that a fucking skyscraper does. Because construction workers build skyscrapers. That's blue collar labor. It's something I think average joe's take pride in, because they feel like they were a part of it.
What's the connection Jerry feels with The Oprah Winfrey show? His wife watched it?
I know everyone here will disagree with this personally, but it doesn't matter what we think. What matters is what certain voters think. And I think it's not the wealth, but the symbol of Trump's wealth, which is the construction of giant buildings, helped him win Ohio/Michigan/Pennsylvania.
No no no no,
This is garbage. 45 conned people into voting for him. Oprah wont have to con people like he did.
Kim came from a well to do family already, just like 45. Oprah stared out with nothing. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
The Blue collar bigots will never vote for liberal regardless. The rust belt and swing state moderates would vote for her. Hillary only lost by 70k votes COMBINED in all the swing states. But, she had baggage for decades unfortunately, baggage she did not deserve, but still. Oprah does not have that baggage.
Obama won the swing states too, I don't see Oprah losing them either.
I think 45 is going to be in some very deep shit if she runs.
