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Just speculation at this point but.....
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RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
(January 8, 2018 at 10:34 am)Mathilda Wrote: The Guardian made a good point that about the first female president probably needing to be a Republican

Quote:Of course, if Ivanka does run for president, it will likely be on a Republican ticket and she will have to abandon her current pretence at mild progressiveness. Just look at the UK: there is a reason the only two female prime ministers we have had have both been Tories. Electing a woman who is also liberal as leader seems to be far too much for the British establishment to handle.

In the more religious, less tolerant US, it is even more of a challenge. Hillary Clinton may have won the popular vote in 2016, but the levels of misogyny directed against her made it clear that the US establishment still finds it near-impossible to stomach the idea of a female head of state. And certainly not one who is a Democrat.


No sorry, this is bullshit. If Obama proves a black LIBERAL MAN can win TWICE, then this story is nonsense to claim a women, black or white cant win as a liberal.

HILLARY only lost on a technicality, she still had more votes.

(January 8, 2018 at 1:28 pm)wallym Wrote:
(January 8, 2018 at 1:05 pm)Mr.Obvious Wrote: Not saying trump is a decent prez. Far from it. But right now i fail to see why Oprah would be a good one. Maybe if indeed she ran, she could show why she actually would make a good leader for one of The mayor world-players. But until she does, i'm going to assume people are banking on fighting The fire of The trump-circus with a similar fire of their own.
I might be mistaken, but if that is The plan, even a democrat victory would still feel like a loss to me.

Mr. Obvious gets it.  There's just no reason to pick Oprah.  It's just a desperate half-ass attempt to copy what Trump did.  

Just run a competent likable qualified candidate.  That's it.  Unless of course, things are great come election time, in which case a hail mary non-issues oriented celebrity deathmatch popularity contest might be the only path.

But if Trump is the worst president ever, and his programs are going to fail, it's just a matter of not fucking it up in '20 for the left.  Any good candidate should win with ease.

Although it begs the question, if all you have to do is nominate a competent likable qualified candidate, and with all the senators/governors/congresspeople the best you can come up with is Tom Hanks, Oprah Winfrey, and the Rock, what does that say about who you're electing into the government.

Yes there is.

1. She is smart.

2. She did not get her money handed to her like Trump.

3. MICHELLE AND BARRACK WOULD SUPPORT HER IF NOMINATED.

Is Oprah my first pick? No, but the two biggest reasons to vote blue no matter who.

1. SCOTUS...

2. Trump

I don't want to see this bullshit I am seeing right now in this thread give 45 8 years.
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Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 8:30 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 9:44 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 8, 2018 at 9:50 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 2:29 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by DLJ - January 8, 2018 at 3:03 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 4:13 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 6:37 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 4:58 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 6:11 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 9:48 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 9:57 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by CapnAwesome - January 9, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 8:30 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 7:48 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 10:51 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by DLJ - January 8, 2018 at 11:10 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Whateverist - January 8, 2018 at 12:27 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Minimalist - January 8, 2018 at 12:23 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 3:27 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 8, 2018 at 9:47 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 11:27 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Minimalist - January 8, 2018 at 12:42 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Longhorn - January 10, 2018 at 4:23 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 10, 2018 at 4:43 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 1:28 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 8, 2018 at 1:21 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 1:24 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 1:44 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by J a c k - January 8, 2018 at 3:59 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 9, 2018 at 7:33 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 10, 2018 at 10:26 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 9:55 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 10:35 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 10:47 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 10:49 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 10:52 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 11:30 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 11:14 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 11:17 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 11:39 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 9, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Pat Mustard - January 9, 2018 at 10:37 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 9, 2018 at 10:53 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by tjakey - January 9, 2018 at 10:12 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mr.Obvious - January 9, 2018 at 11:55 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by FFaith - January 9, 2018 at 12:06 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mr.Obvious - January 9, 2018 at 12:19 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Haipule - January 9, 2018 at 8:33 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by FFaith - January 10, 2018 at 12:44 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 10, 2018 at 1:04 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by FFaith - January 10, 2018 at 1:23 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 10, 2018 at 1:39 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by CapnAwesome - January 10, 2018 at 1:02 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by CapnAwesome - January 11, 2018 at 1:59 pm

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