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Just speculation at this point but.....
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RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
(January 8, 2018 at 9:23 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(January 8, 2018 at 11:18 am)Industrial Lad Wrote: While it's true she would be better than Trump, I want a serious candidate. It's not enough for me to win I want to win and have it be somebody competent in the role. To my knowledge, she has no experience in politics.

I would pick Bernie Sanders. or Elizabeth Warren, my states Senator Sherrod Brown (even though he doesn't have name recognition-he's still good), or anybody that's even a semi corporate democrat that's to the left of most corporate Democrats first.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherrod_Brown
IDK if he could win but he would make a good president.

Maybe he's earned a shot at it, maybe he hasn't. Nothing personal against Oprah, but she hasn't.


I don't think it's even a winning strategy to try to imitate the Republicans by running someone with no prior experience.

Trump didn't win just because he wasn't a politician-He won because of the fake populism.

It's not likely Democrats could recreate that.
Political experience is over rated.  Consider Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Barbara Boxer.   They've been in Washington since dirt was created but would you want one of them to be President?  

In the last election everyone had more experience than Trump, who had none.  But what Trump did have was a message that appealed to the Rust Belt voters and those were the voters who elected him.  And Trump's message has been consistent for years, as shown in his interview with Oprah.  

Sanders had experience and a message.  It appealed to some but Lying Crooked Hillary and her gang rigged the system against him.  Even if he had gotten the nomination he wouldn't have won because the Red State voters woudn't have voted for him and the Rust Belt voters didn't like his message.  He would have carried the Blue States.

Lying Crooked Hillary had experience but no message.  She won the Blue States but didn't stand a chance in the Red States because she is a Dem.  She didn't campaign in the Rust Belt States.  And her lack of an economic message doomed her there.  

Oprah is popular and she would win the Blue States.  But without a very good economic message she would lose the Rust Belt States.  She would lose all of the Red States, including Alabama.  Consequently she would lose the election.  

The bottom line is that any Dem candidate will win in the Blue States.  Any Repub candidate will win the Red States.  The winner depends on who can sway the Rust Belt voters.  That's the only poll that matters.
I never said it has to be someone that's been around since disco was popular, I just said I want a serious candidate.  Some degree of charisma as well as adequate competence aren't mutually exclusive.

I would be fine with someone that has served in the senate for a term or two provided they really are a progressive and they are a serious person.

It's not good enough for me to have someone with a D next to their name if they can't do the job properly. Furthermore it just isn't necessary. President of the United States is not an entry level job.
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Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 8:30 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 9:44 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 8, 2018 at 9:50 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 2:29 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by DLJ - January 8, 2018 at 3:03 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 4:13 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 6:37 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 4:58 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 6:11 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 9:48 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 9:57 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by CapnAwesome - January 9, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 8:30 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 7:48 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 10:51 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by DLJ - January 8, 2018 at 11:10 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Whateverist - January 8, 2018 at 12:27 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Minimalist - January 8, 2018 at 12:23 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 3:27 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 8, 2018 at 9:47 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by The Industrial Atheist - January 9, 2018 at 8:55 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 11:27 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Minimalist - January 8, 2018 at 12:42 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Longhorn - January 10, 2018 at 4:23 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 10, 2018 at 4:43 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 1:28 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 8, 2018 at 1:21 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 1:24 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 1:44 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by J a c k - January 8, 2018 at 3:59 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 9, 2018 at 7:33 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 10, 2018 at 10:26 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 9:55 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 10:35 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 10:47 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 10:49 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 10:52 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 11:30 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 11:14 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 11:17 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 11:39 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 9, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Pat Mustard - January 9, 2018 at 10:37 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 9, 2018 at 10:53 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by tjakey - January 9, 2018 at 10:12 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mr.Obvious - January 9, 2018 at 11:55 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by FFaith - January 9, 2018 at 12:06 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mr.Obvious - January 9, 2018 at 12:19 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Haipule - January 9, 2018 at 8:33 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by FFaith - January 10, 2018 at 12:44 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 10, 2018 at 1:04 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by FFaith - January 10, 2018 at 1:23 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 10, 2018 at 1:39 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by CapnAwesome - January 10, 2018 at 1:02 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by CapnAwesome - January 11, 2018 at 1:59 pm

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