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Just speculation at this point but.....
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RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
(January 9, 2018 at 10:47 am)Mermaid Wrote:
(January 9, 2018 at 10:35 am)Brian37 Wrote: YES, and again, what makes you think she would not be qualified? Bill Gates has never held office, would you vote for him? 

AGAIN, Oprah STARTED OUT WITH NOTHING, was not handed anything. She isn't a spoiled brat, she was not handed her wealth like 45 was. She can read legal contracts and she can write her own speeches and she is a voracious reader. I am quite sure she has a very high IQ. 

I am sure she would fill her cabinet with smart people, on par with Michelle Obama and Warren. 

AT THIS POINT getting the GOP and 45 out of power is my goal. SCOTUS is my goal. If it takes her to do that, then that is far better than leaving 45 or the GOP in power.

AND AGAIN,

DEMS for 36 years have lost focus, we gave up on local and state elections when Reagan successfully busted the air traffic control unions. 

IT WILL NOT MATTER one fucking bit long term even if we put Bernie or Warren or Hillary in the White House, if we don't work long term on local and state elections and expand our map.

Can't we bring up some candidate with law credentials and political savvy instead of a TV celebrity? "Better than Trump" is not what I want for my country. Oprah is not the answer. 
I am sure she's a good person. But the President!?

Ok, let the GOP keep the power. 

This is the "all or nothing" nonsense that BOTH Bernie and Hillary camps had which cost us the election.


I DO think Oprah is qualified, and I don't give one fuck about her celebrity. She doesn't use small words, she can write her own speeches, she started out a no name, she built an empire FROM NOTHING.  

It is bullshit to compare Oprah to 45 or the Kardashians. 45 was handed his wealth. Kim is the daughter of a billionaire lawyer. SHE was handed her wealth. OPRAH was not handed shit, and she is not stupid.

Pick your battles. But either way, this bullshit "all or nothing crap" is not going to help us win.

The Obamas would back her, not because she is famous. The Obamas would ALSO back Hillary or Bernie or Warren. Now, unless you are willing to call the Obamas stupid or mere "celebrities" too, stop making this about her fame. OPRAH started out a local journalist back in the 70s when it was far more difficult for a woman, much less a black woman, to movie up. 

If you want to attack a billionaire celebrity, Rupert Murrdoc started Fox News and that network has caused a shitload of damage to society. Oprah BACKED Obama in both his bids and I don't think she likes Fucks News anymore than you or I do.
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Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 8:30 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 9:44 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 8, 2018 at 9:50 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 2:29 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by DLJ - January 8, 2018 at 3:03 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 4:13 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 6:37 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 4:58 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 6:11 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 9:48 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 9:57 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by CapnAwesome - January 9, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 8:30 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 7:48 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 10:51 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by DLJ - January 8, 2018 at 11:10 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Whateverist - January 8, 2018 at 12:27 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Minimalist - January 8, 2018 at 12:23 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 3:27 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 8, 2018 at 9:47 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 11:27 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Minimalist - January 8, 2018 at 12:42 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Longhorn - January 10, 2018 at 4:23 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 10, 2018 at 4:43 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 1:28 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 8, 2018 at 1:21 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 1:24 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 1:44 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by J a c k - January 8, 2018 at 3:59 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 9, 2018 at 7:33 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 10, 2018 at 10:26 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 9:55 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 10:35 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 10:47 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 10:49 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 10:52 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 11:30 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 11:14 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 11:17 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 11:39 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 9, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Pat Mustard - January 9, 2018 at 10:37 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 9, 2018 at 10:53 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by tjakey - January 9, 2018 at 10:12 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mr.Obvious - January 9, 2018 at 11:55 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by FFaith - January 9, 2018 at 12:06 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mr.Obvious - January 9, 2018 at 12:19 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Haipule - January 9, 2018 at 8:33 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by FFaith - January 10, 2018 at 12:44 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 10, 2018 at 1:04 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by FFaith - January 10, 2018 at 1:23 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 10, 2018 at 1:39 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by CapnAwesome - January 10, 2018 at 1:02 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by CapnAwesome - January 11, 2018 at 1:59 pm

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