RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
January 9, 2018 at 4:23 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2018 at 4:25 pm by Whateverist.)
(January 9, 2018 at 1:23 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(January 9, 2018 at 1:18 pm)alpha male Wrote: You should probably define the issues before you declare one methodology to be superior to another.
(EDIT: DELETED WHAT I HAD BEFORE)
What needs to be defined? I am mystified here. Look, you can't bring back the dead, so the only way for a murderer to improve is to try to behave morally in the future. That's my position.
But when you do it the Christian way, not only do the murderers stop murdering but every one of his victims is resurrected .. in a special place you can't see, provided they had groveled the way the lord likes in life.
(January 9, 2018 at 4:20 pm)SteveII Wrote:(January 9, 2018 at 4:17 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Wow, you really think the actual harm we do one another is secondary to "cosmic consequences"? Oh yeah, you mean pie in the sky afterlife rewards vs dum-te-dum-dum hell.Thank you for being Exhibit A in my point above.
Another way xtianity warps morality is the honus it puts on them to be morally exceptional, as if morality should be an all consuming pursuit of the highest scores possible. That's no way for people to live. Rather than lift people up, that makes them less than they could be. Of course, the fact that getting 'saved' is said to come from grace rather than acts and the ready availability of death bed confessions pretty much guarantees that the prisons will be stocked with at least their share of malcontents. It is pretty apparent that the avoidance of cruelty and indifference in and of it self doesn't play a very big role in the lives xtians lead; how we treat each other is just for score keeping for the sake of "cosmic consequences" for your lot.
No, thank you. I am here to serve! And look, I got another A. Bet that gets me into that special place we can't see.