RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
January 10, 2018 at 11:25 am
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2018 at 11:28 am by Whateverist.)
(January 10, 2018 at 11:09 am)SteveII Wrote:(January 10, 2018 at 10:54 am)Khemikal Wrote: What on earth was in your hearts before they "changed"............?
For some of us, that's the default state.
Usually a combination of pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and slothfulness which are foundations for a host of other less than perfectly moral actions. Are there people who have these under control without God (as in no desire to--not just avoid them)? I'm sure there are, but they would be rare exceptions, not the rule.
To all appearances xtians remain as prone to all those flaws as anyone else. The big difference I see is that flawed atheists don't feel smugly that they're saved regardless. An atheist dissatisfied with his life has a reason to get it together now in what for us is the only opportunity there will be. For those planning on going to the pie in the sky place after death and content to call himself a sinner, why bother?
(January 10, 2018 at 11:25 am)Mermaid Wrote:(January 10, 2018 at 11:09 am)SteveII Wrote: Usually a combination of pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and slothfulness which are foundations for a host of other less than perfectly moral actions. Are there people who have these under control without God (as in no desire to--not just avoid them)? I'm sure there are, but they would be rare exceptions, not the rule.
On what authority do you make this statement?
a) position of the stars
b) tea leaves
c) scripture
d) chicken entrails
I added some multiple choice responses (my bolded) to make it easier on Steve, hope you don't mind.