(January 10, 2018 at 11:25 am)Mermaid Wrote:(January 10, 2018 at 11:09 am)SteveII Wrote: Usually a combination of pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and slothfulness which are foundations for a host of other less than perfectly moral actions. Are there people who have these under control without God (as in no desire to--not just avoid them)? I'm sure there are, but they would be rare exceptions, not the rule.
On what authority do you make this statement?
47 years of experience with people. Is your position that there are a plenty of people who simply do not struggle with one or more of these things on a regular basis (which was my point)?