(January 10, 2018 at 12:18 pm)SteveII Wrote:(January 10, 2018 at 11:25 am)Whateverist Wrote: To all appearances xtians remain as prone to all those flaws as anyone else. The big difference I see is that flawed atheists don't feel smugly that they're saved regardless. An atheist dissatisfied with his life has a reason to get it together now in what for us is the only opportunity there will be. For those planning on going to the pie in the sky place after death and content to call himself a sinner, why bother?
Sure, why wouldn't Christians be prone to those things? It is the human condition. My point is that a Christian should be working (or should want to work) with God on changing his/her heart so that these things are not struggles (not simply avoid the behavior). It seems your point in your last sentence is based on a poor understanding of Christianity, not based on any actual reasons from the belief system itself.
So Jeffrey Dalmer can be as good a xtian as any of you and you'd be happy to have him sitting next to you in church .. so long as God is working on his heart. Who knows, maybe one day his tastes for human flesh will change.
