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Just speculation at this point but.....
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RE: Just speculation at this point but.....
(January 10, 2018 at 1:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 10, 2018 at 12:44 pm)FFaith Wrote: Is Oprah even qualified to talk about harassment and abuse against women in Hollywood, what with her being BFFs with Harvey Weinstein when everyone in Hollywood has known what he is? Does she care about women at all? I wonder what joke potential candidate the establishment is going to throw out there next to try to stop Bernie. They're shaking in their boots at the moment. Bernie or bust!

Subway cut ties to Jarred. What link are you providing to say that Oprah is defending Harvey's actions? If my mom, for example only, had committed murder, I might still love her, but I most certainly would not condone it. Why are you assuming she is still associating herself with Harvey? 

And no, no more of this "all or nothing" crap. Hillary had her minority busters as much as Bernie, and the irony of that is they BOTH were on the same page during the general election.

And why are you assuming she is going to run at all? Until she makes an official announcement, or even Bernie or Hillary for that matter, we won't know who the field is. 

I am voting for whomever gets the Dem nomination, Warren, or Biden, or Hillary or Bernie and yes, on the off chance Oprah does run her too. None of this is a done deal in any case. 

I am focused on THIS NOVEMBER on flipping congress in any case, to give WHOMEVER we run in 2020 a damned good shot to change policy and undo the damage the GOP is doing, including The Supreme Court.

Of course she's not going to defend Harvey's actions in public (although Weinstein did say Oprah called him to give her support after the allegations came in), but she knew what he was for all of these years, and still decided that that was the person she wanted to be great friends with. That was the person she hung around, arm in arm, kissing him on the cheek. She had the power to bring him down. She had the power to stand up for all of the women he has abused/threatened/whatever, but she only speaks out now that it's convenient and because she would get slammed for not speaking out at this point, and she's supposed to be some champion for women and their rights? I like that girls can look at Oprah and then think to themselves that they can be successful like her too. That's a good thing of course, but I'd say she's maybe a good interviewer and business woman, and that's about it. I'll give her credit for that.

If Oprah wins the nomination and you then don't really think you have much of a choice but to vote for her, then that's one thing. That's fine and all, I guess, but Bernie is the most popular politician in America, and he will very likely be the only true liberal in the race if he runs, so the people need to demand him. Another neoliberal is not acceptable at this point.
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Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 8:30 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 9:44 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 8, 2018 at 9:50 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 2:29 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by DLJ - January 8, 2018 at 3:03 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 4:13 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 6:37 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 4:58 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 6:11 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 9:48 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 9:57 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by CapnAwesome - January 9, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 8:30 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 7:48 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 10:51 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by DLJ - January 8, 2018 at 11:10 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Whateverist - January 8, 2018 at 12:27 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Minimalist - January 8, 2018 at 12:23 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 3:27 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 8, 2018 at 9:47 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 11:27 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Minimalist - January 8, 2018 at 12:42 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Longhorn - January 10, 2018 at 4:23 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 10, 2018 at 4:43 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 1:28 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 8, 2018 at 1:21 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 8, 2018 at 1:24 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 8, 2018 at 1:44 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by J a c k - January 8, 2018 at 3:59 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 9, 2018 at 7:33 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by A Theist - January 10, 2018 at 10:26 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 9:55 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 10:35 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 10:47 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 10:49 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 10:52 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 11:30 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 11:14 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 11:17 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 9, 2018 at 11:39 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 9, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Pat Mustard - January 9, 2018 at 10:37 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by henryp - January 9, 2018 at 10:53 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by tjakey - January 9, 2018 at 10:12 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Grandizer - January 9, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mermaid - January 9, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mr.Obvious - January 9, 2018 at 11:55 am
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by FFaith - January 9, 2018 at 12:06 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Mr.Obvious - January 9, 2018 at 12:19 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Haipule - January 9, 2018 at 8:33 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by FFaith - January 10, 2018 at 12:44 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 10, 2018 at 1:04 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by FFaith - January 10, 2018 at 1:23 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by Brian37 - January 10, 2018 at 1:39 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by CapnAwesome - January 10, 2018 at 1:02 pm
RE: Just speculation at this point but..... - by CapnAwesome - January 11, 2018 at 1:59 pm

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