(January 10, 2018 at 10:49 am)SteveII Wrote: I would say that Christian are on average more moral than atheists...IF you remove all nominal and cultural Christians from the comparison. The reason being that if a heart change is a result of salvation, then I would question a person's salvation if there is no heart change (or at least a desire). Of course this will bring up the No True Scotsman fallacy, but I don't think it applies because the definition of being a Christian is not ad hoc--it is clearly defined in the foundational documents--the NT.
So, salvation changes hearts. This is demonstrated by the change of heart by all those who are saved. Those whose hearts aren't changed are excluded because they obviously aren't saved. Leaving only those whose hearts have changed. Which is proof that salvation changes hearts.
Hooboy. What a ridiculous and self-serving bit of illogic.
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