Admitting You're a Sinner

[JackRussell]

And so in contrast, a morally upright Atheist, honest in their questions about the big questions, does not deserve eternal punishment, right?

The eternal punishment has nothing to do with how moral you are in your life. I posted this earlier in this thread:

Sin creates a barrier (because of God's essential holiness) and an obligation to satisfy (because of God's essential justice). The choice is to leave the barrier in place and pay for the consequences defined by God's justice OR accept that he has provided a method to remove each person's individual barrier and satisfy the justice. To be clear, absent outside help, there is nothing we are capable of doing that can remove the barrier and the only satisfaction of divine justice is our death. The only way both the barrier could removed and the satisfaction of justice could be accomplished is if God himself removed the barrier and satisfied the justice by paying for our sins prior to our death and imparting holiness on us in the process. https://atheistforums.org/post-1683883.html#pid1683883

Your objection about how deserving someone is because of a otherwise moral life only illustrates that you do not understand the belief you are complaining about. Follow the discussion from the beginning. Ask if you do not understand my answers.

I think I understand your answers; I just don't see your worldview as reasonable, fair or cogent. Which is why I guess we disagree.

But then I was raised Jewish and now reject that too.

I care about wellbeing and social contracts that are totally inclusive, and I don't see a happy wandering for me between that and theism. For me morality is all, and I well know I am imperfect, I don't see any benefit to acquiescence though, it seems like a slave mind to me and I would respect a god that respects my integrity.

And, not you Steve, but the choices and threats from other theists here and their unscientific rants open up an immeasurable chasm in discourse.

I have friends I know and respect as Christians, no problem, I just see it as differing ways to approach a decent life. I strive to do so too, god is just meaningless to me.

I hope she doesn't mind.