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RE: Nihilism

January 11, 2018 at 5:49 pm

(January 11, 2018 at 5:30 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Just because there is no free will, that doesn't imply a lack of values.

If we take free will out of the equation, we haven't said that people don't make choices. It's simply that their choices have causes which are out of their control-- they have WILL, just not FREE will. We can use this knowledge to better (ie more accurately) understand people's choices and motives.

Also, while I tend toward a rejection of free will, I'm no nihilist. I think that violence and crime are bad, but I don't reduce them to a simple free choice by the perpetrators of such actions.

Also, the matter of free will is far from settled.

Please elaborate on why "no free will = nihilism"

Indeed. The proper relationship would be with fatalism.

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Nihilism - by ShirkahnW - January 11, 2018 at 5:13 pm

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 11, 2018 at 5:30 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 11, 2018 at 5:49 pm

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 11, 2018 at 6:23 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 11, 2018 at 11:32 pm

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 13, 2018 at 2:09 am

RE: Nihilism - by Neo-Scholastic - January 12, 2018 at 1:57 pm

RE: Nihilism - by ShirkahnW - January 11, 2018 at 5:40 pm

RE: Nihilism - by henryp - January 11, 2018 at 5:57 pm

RE: Nihilism - by shadow - January 11, 2018 at 5:47 pm

RE: Nihilism - by bennyboy - January 11, 2018 at 6:23 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Grandizer - January 11, 2018 at 6:26 pm

RE: Nihilism - by bennyboy - January 11, 2018 at 6:31 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Amarok - January 11, 2018 at 7:10 pm

RE: Nihilism - by brewer - January 11, 2018 at 7:16 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Grandizer - January 11, 2018 at 7:30 pm

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 11, 2018 at 7:32 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Grandizer - January 11, 2018 at 7:37 pm

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 11, 2018 at 9:41 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Amarok - January 11, 2018 at 10:04 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Grandizer - January 11, 2018 at 10:57 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Mr.Obvious - January 11, 2018 at 7:20 pm

RE: Nihilism - by brewer - January 11, 2018 at 7:24 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Mr.Obvious - January 11, 2018 at 7:37 pm

RE: Nihilism - by possibletarian - January 11, 2018 at 11:22 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Whateverist - January 11, 2018 at 11:27 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Mr.Obvious - January 12, 2018 at 3:28 am

RE: Nihilism - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2018 at 10:05 am

RE: Nihilism - by Amarok - January 12, 2018 at 10:31 am

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 12, 2018 at 10:57 am

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 12, 2018 at 2:23 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 12, 2018 at 11:49 pm

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 13, 2018 at 1:27 am

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 13, 2018 at 9:11 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Whateverist - January 12, 2018 at 10:10 pm

RE: Nihilism - by henryp - January 12, 2018 at 11:02 am

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 12, 2018 at 11:03 am

RE: Nihilism - by ErGingerbreadMandude - January 12, 2018 at 11:13 am

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 12, 2018 at 11:44 pm

RE: Nihilism - by ErGingerbreadMandude - January 13, 2018 at 1:44 am

RE: Nihilism - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2018 at 2:14 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Amarok - January 12, 2018 at 2:29 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Banned - January 12, 2018 at 10:49 pm

RE: Nihilism - by chimp3 - January 12, 2018 at 11:47 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Grandizer - January 13, 2018 at 2:41 am

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 13, 2018 at 4:42 am

RE: Nihilism - by Amarok - January 13, 2018 at 5:09 am

RE: Nihilism - by Grandizer - January 13, 2018 at 6:26 am

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 13, 2018 at 6:41 am

RE: Nihilism - by Grandizer - January 13, 2018 at 6:44 am

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 13, 2018 at 6:49 am

RE: Nihilism - by Grandizer - January 13, 2018 at 7:41 am

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 13, 2018 at 7:48 am

RE: Nihilism - by Grandizer - January 13, 2018 at 7:53 am

RE: Nihilism - by emjay - January 14, 2018 at 4:02 pm

RE: Nihilism - by notimportant1234 - January 13, 2018 at 5:35 am

RE: Nihilism - by DLJ - January 13, 2018 at 6:21 am

RE: Nihilism - by Whateverist - January 13, 2018 at 3:43 pm

RE: Nihilism - by emjay - January 13, 2018 at 8:41 pm

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 13, 2018 at 8:54 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Grandizer - January 13, 2018 at 10:05 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Grandizer - January 13, 2018 at 10:31 pm

RE: Nihilism - by emjay - January 13, 2018 at 10:39 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Abaddon_ire - January 13, 2018 at 11:14 pm

RE: Nihilism - by emjay - January 13, 2018 at 11:19 pm

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 13, 2018 at 11:37 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Abaddon_ire - January 14, 2018 at 12:11 am

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 14, 2018 at 12:12 am

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 14, 2018 at 1:10 am

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 13, 2018 at 10:17 pm

RE: Nihilism - by emjay - January 13, 2018 at 10:32 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Grandizer - January 13, 2018 at 10:36 pm

RE: Nihilism - by emjay - January 13, 2018 at 11:03 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 13, 2018 at 10:38 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 13, 2018 at 10:40 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Grandizer - January 13, 2018 at 10:47 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 13, 2018 at 10:52 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 13, 2018 at 11:16 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 13, 2018 at 11:34 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 13, 2018 at 11:39 pm

RE: Nihilism - by vulcanlogician - January 13, 2018 at 11:46 pm

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 14, 2018 at 2:18 am

RE: Nihilism - by Edwardo Piet - January 14, 2018 at 5:27 pm

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