RE: Nihilism
January 13, 2018 at 10:17 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2018 at 10:18 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
Actions are no less significant in a deterministic universe because our actions are the same regardless of if this universe is deterministic or not. It's not like the universe changes when we figure out which one we live in.
It's not about actions. It's about not pretending that we have choices when we don't. We don't have choices, but once we realize that . . . then it doesn't mean we used to have them before we realized it. It just means we were deluded up until now. We never had any. What we have is actions and rationality that we ultimately have zero control over. But our actions don't matter any more or less than they ever have. They matter subjectively. So there's a reason to be nihilistic if we feel nhilistic: it's our own subjective reasons! It make sense for us to be nihilistic if we feel nihilistic because all our own motives are down to our own subjectivity anyway. If we don't feel nihilistic, if we feel that there is meaning.... then there is. Subjectively? Yes. But that's the only meaning there is anyway. But it's objectively subjective. Our subjectity really does objectively exist. This is not a contradiction. All ontology is ultimately objective, including subjectivity. Subjects are also objects. The mind is part of the brain is part of the body which itself is an object. There is no contradiction because ontology is always ultimately objective. It's epistemology that sometimes isn't. Epistemology is only objective when we can actually objectively know stuff. Existence is always entirely objective. Because hey, it's about objects. It's about stuff. Only stuff exists! Try telling me about something that doesn't exist and tell me that there's a such thing as it.
It's not about actions. It's about not pretending that we have choices when we don't. We don't have choices, but once we realize that . . . then it doesn't mean we used to have them before we realized it. It just means we were deluded up until now. We never had any. What we have is actions and rationality that we ultimately have zero control over. But our actions don't matter any more or less than they ever have. They matter subjectively. So there's a reason to be nihilistic if we feel nhilistic: it's our own subjective reasons! It make sense for us to be nihilistic if we feel nihilistic because all our own motives are down to our own subjectivity anyway. If we don't feel nihilistic, if we feel that there is meaning.... then there is. Subjectively? Yes. But that's the only meaning there is anyway. But it's objectively subjective. Our subjectity really does objectively exist. This is not a contradiction. All ontology is ultimately objective, including subjectivity. Subjects are also objects. The mind is part of the brain is part of the body which itself is an object. There is no contradiction because ontology is always ultimately objective. It's epistemology that sometimes isn't. Epistemology is only objective when we can actually objectively know stuff. Existence is always entirely objective. Because hey, it's about objects. It's about stuff. Only stuff exists! Try telling me about something that doesn't exist and tell me that there's a such thing as it.
