(January 17, 2018 at 7:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The other apologist has told us, explicitly, that sin and immorality are not the same thing. Not paying a parking ticket on time is a mistake..not a sin.
What say you? Is that crazy methodist nutter wrong?
Sin only covers morality and nothing else.
Morality involves knowledge of what you are doing.
The drug addict commits murder while under the influence, he or she is not entirely to blame for what the drug caused them to do, but they are guilty of the neglect and self indulgence that led them to take drugs in the first place.
But then if the person was a victim of serious abuse to begin with, that caused them to become involved in drugs, then, in God's court, the charge of murder will be on those who abused this person.
If you don't know hwy parking meters exist, and you fail to pay, it is no sin, but of you understand the system of authority and for no better reason you ignore it, it is a sin of neglect.
If you have every good reason to avoid paying the meter, there is no sin.
But if your reasoning comes from a delusion, which comes as a result of habitually neglecting duty, then it is a sin.
Sin is all about the heart and mind - intentions, motives and our personal trends.
God judges after the heart, inner motives, opportunities had, life's circumstances etc, which more than often, end up placing the sinner in a position of being an innocent victim of sin.
Because being such a victim destroys the ability to love, trust and obey God, no one is left unattended by the love and discipline caused by God through life and every other means possible. A discipline which does not encroach on personal freedom. Love cannot be forced or manipulated, which is why miracles will not accomplish the job.
Jesus healed thousands, and many of them were in the mob that jeered for his death - figure that one out.