(January 19, 2018 at 7:33 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(January 19, 2018 at 7:29 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Well I did previously speak about the mafia. They aren't explicitly connected to any religion,.......that's not entirely true, but okay.
Quote:their violence is motivated by profit with 0 religious motivation, there's no initiation process requiring members to be religious, the church has opposed the mafia and churches have been bombed by the mafia.-and their organization makes them a bigger threat than a bunch of random criminals doing criminal shit. I;m not impressed by one organized crime syndicate, in this case "the church", opposing another...competing..organized crime syndicate, the mafia.
I don't know why you think that any of it is a counter-comment on any of my own. It's just another example of exactly what I was discussing......
Not a counter comment. You asked for a comparable group to a violent religious group and said I could establish the specifications that you want.
I decided the specifications are that the group needs to consist of a few people who are reasonably violent, organized, and not allied with any specific religion or motivated by religious/spiritual goals.
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Impersonation is treason.