(January 19, 2018 at 8:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(January 19, 2018 at 7:44 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Not a counter comment. You asked for a comparable group to a violent religious group and said I could establish the specifications that you want.Well, you didn't -actually- present one, you simply posited that there may be one. Violently organized partisans are only as good or bad as their ideology.
I decided the specifications are that the group needs to consist of a few people who are reasonably violent, organized, and not allied with any specific religion or motivated by religious/spiritual goals.
Counterpoint, I posit that the shittiness that god believers express, when organized, is diametrically opposed to the benefits brought by organized secularism (of which our government is a representative).
Some ideas are, in fact, better than others. The organization of -those- ideas is preferrable, whereas the organization of the others is something to be avoided insomuch as we can. No sacrificing virgins to volcanos, for example.
I did present one.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.
