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If you could make religion illegal
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RE: If you could make religion illegal
(January 20, 2018 at 6:07 am)paulpablo Wrote: I know nothing of tax laws concerning religions. 
I'm just talking about violent groups. Violent religious groups, for the most part and as far as I'm aware, will be held accountable for their actions. And in a lot of cases more so than government agents working for the government which you say is an example of a secular organization.
Yeah, I touched on that a few pages back..certain in the knowledge that if any organized religious group starts believing in their own shit -too- much and goes mujahideen, they'll be met with mace and teargas or worse.  

Quote:Also I would add that the government, the secular organization, isn't being taxed. It's the organization doing the taxing. Which again makes it comparable to a religious organization.
That's a novel way to parse that, but okay.  

Quote:Whichever way you look at it I personally see secular organizations being comparable to religious ones in terms of organization, violence, danger and accountability. Depending on the circumstances.
It's the bit I italed that I've been commenting on.  Importantly, in the US, organised religion is -not- comparably accountable.  It's not an oversight or a failure, on our part...there are just some things we're willing to let them get away with..because organized religion.  That list is shrinking.  Notably and recently, there have been high profile cases where the state has intervened on behalf of minors who are being denied some medical treatment or procedure they require (jehovahs witnesses, christian scientists).  

I was mentioning that...despite our reaction to "banning religion" we do and have done so, we're more comfortable with it than people think.  It's just that we parse it in novel ways.  We say.."well, I'm not banning their religion just because I won"t let their child die of strep when their prayer regimen doesn't work. "  But, ofc, that;s exactly what we're doing from the point of view of the religious, because doing that and allowing that -is- what they believe in.  It is their strongly held religious belief.
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If you could make religion illegal - by ErGingerbreadMandude - January 19, 2018 at 1:30 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by J a c k - January 19, 2018 at 1:32 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Succubus - January 19, 2018 at 1:47 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 19, 2018 at 1:50 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 1:52 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Aegon - January 19, 2018 at 1:55 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Whateverist - January 19, 2018 at 1:57 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Iroscato - January 19, 2018 at 1:57 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Chad32 - January 19, 2018 at 2:03 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by brewer - January 19, 2018 at 2:09 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Jackalope - January 19, 2018 at 2:10 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by polymath257 - January 19, 2018 at 2:29 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Edwardo Piet - January 19, 2018 at 2:57 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by LastPoet - January 19, 2018 at 3:04 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Minimalist - January 19, 2018 at 3:07 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 3:09 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by vorlon13 - January 19, 2018 at 3:17 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Chad32 - January 19, 2018 at 3:18 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Minimalist - January 19, 2018 at 3:25 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by FatAndFaithless - January 19, 2018 at 3:25 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Chad32 - January 19, 2018 at 4:20 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Succubus - January 19, 2018 at 8:53 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Catholic_Lady - January 19, 2018 at 9:02 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Succubus - January 19, 2018 at 9:06 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Catholic_Lady - January 20, 2018 at 12:17 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Cod - January 19, 2018 at 3:30 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Shell B - January 19, 2018 at 4:05 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Cod - January 19, 2018 at 4:29 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Mr.Obvious - January 19, 2018 at 3:57 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 4:04 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Chad32 - January 19, 2018 at 4:16 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Athene - January 19, 2018 at 4:08 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 4:10 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Athene - January 19, 2018 at 4:33 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 19, 2018 at 4:38 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Succubus - January 19, 2018 at 9:00 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Ravenshire - January 19, 2018 at 4:19 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 4:40 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 19, 2018 at 5:26 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Catholic_Lady - January 19, 2018 at 4:44 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Mermaid - January 19, 2018 at 4:50 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 19, 2018 at 4:59 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 4:48 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Amarok - January 19, 2018 at 5:06 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Shell B - January 19, 2018 at 5:39 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Minimalist - January 19, 2018 at 5:44 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Amarok - January 19, 2018 at 5:54 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by janeway - January 19, 2018 at 6:01 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Amarok - January 19, 2018 at 6:03 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Rhondazvous - January 19, 2018 at 6:14 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by notimportant1234 - January 19, 2018 at 6:29 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Amarok - January 19, 2018 at 6:30 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 6:32 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 19, 2018 at 6:59 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by notimportant1234 - January 19, 2018 at 6:36 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 7:11 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 19, 2018 at 7:12 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 7:16 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 19, 2018 at 7:29 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 7:33 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 19, 2018 at 7:44 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 8:55 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 20, 2018 at 12:24 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 9:02 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Seraphina - January 19, 2018 at 10:21 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 10:43 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Seraphina - January 19, 2018 at 10:58 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 11:09 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Seraphina - January 19, 2018 at 11:19 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2018 at 12:25 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 20, 2018 at 12:31 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2018 at 12:59 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 20, 2018 at 2:16 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2018 at 2:20 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 20, 2018 at 2:29 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2018 at 2:34 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 20, 2018 at 2:36 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2018 at 2:44 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 20, 2018 at 4:22 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2018 at 4:25 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 20, 2018 at 4:33 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2018 at 4:38 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 20, 2018 at 4:53 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2018 at 5:02 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 20, 2018 at 5:38 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2018 at 5:57 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by paulpablo - January 20, 2018 at 6:07 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2018 at 6:39 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Valkyrie - January 20, 2018 at 6:45 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Fake Messiah - January 20, 2018 at 9:10 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by FFaith - January 20, 2018 at 2:39 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Mister Agenda - January 20, 2018 at 9:23 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Ravenshire - January 21, 2018 at 5:06 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by purplepurpose - January 20, 2018 at 9:33 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Catholic_Lady - January 20, 2018 at 10:25 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Whateverist - January 20, 2018 at 10:33 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Nay_Sayer - January 20, 2018 at 2:44 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Amarok - January 20, 2018 at 5:00 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by vulcanlogician - January 20, 2018 at 7:57 pm
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by Martian Mermaid - January 22, 2018 at 3:50 am
RE: If you could make religion illegal - by The Grand Nudger - January 22, 2018 at 4:12 am

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