(January 25, 2018 at 11:24 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I really don't hold to the seemingly-popular viewpoint that humans are just naturally pieces of shit and that given a chance without consequences everyone would be killing/raping/stealing with abandon. Most people are just good people. Our upbringing is a huge part of that, but so are the natural tendencies with which we've been engendered by evolution (altruism, etc). Most people are already raping and killing exactly as many people as they want, the number just happens to be 0.
The fact that some people do some shitty things in some situations doesn't change that. We just focus SO much more on the negatives.
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I disagree. I think all people have fear inside of them with different levels; and in many cases that's what moves them.
Take work as an example: many work because they fear sleeping in the street; even though they hate their jobs.
When fear is gone; deterrence is gone; and revolting against the norms and moral codes arise. Put somebody under the right conditions; and you'll probably get out with the desired result: good or evil. But it's always gray.
Or: nobody is perfect. I think under the right conditions, humans would eat each other but a few.
